GAME 58 DIRKIE: Winner MK (95%) | Runner-up DB (5%)

[Kammrath]

Reminds me of when people were pointing out WCS had better +/- numbers than Maxi for a half at the beginning of the season.

1) My comment about DB's plus/minus was mostly a joke.

2) WCS was quite positively impactful early this season and Maxi definitely had some struggles early. Those are both true. But small trends can be quickly overturned. WCS wasn't able to keep things together off the court and Maxi found his stride.

[michaeltex]

https://streamable.com/rl8wn2

Luka doin' Luka.

[cow]

1) My comment about DB's plus/minus was mostly a joke.

2) WCS was quite positively impactful early this season and Maxi definitely had some struggles early. Those are both true. But small trends can be quickly overturned. WCS wasn't able to keep things together off the court and Maxi found his stride.

1)  Yes, I know.  No need to state the obvious.

2)  WCS wasn't a joke except as a player.  I told everyone what would happen and it those +/- numbers were used to try to refute my  point.  

3)  My comment is mostly a joke but with every good joke, there is a hint of truth.  

The first measuring stick of this trade is the playoffs.  The next is how SD/DB are used long term as assets.

[LukTheShadow]

Who can put this beauty into stats?

https://twitter.com/Mavs_FFL/status/1493775961975713799?s=20&t=vgYVSdcDGNjpnDFv2QRvkg

[Kammrath]

Who can put this beauty into stats?

+3 for everyone involved. There you go.

[cow]

Hockey Assists form double teams as an advanced stat would be interesting to show a player's gravity.  It probably already exists.

[SleepingHero]

Luka doin' Luka.

Trying to create a nickname like the Nuggets did for Jokic with the Sombor shuffle. 

The Ljubljana Leg Cross doesn't quite have the same ring to it.

[ItsGoTime]

The first measuring stick of this trade is the playoffs.  Next is JB's decision in the offseason. Then is how SD/DB are used long term as assets.

FIFY

[cow]

FIFY

Hubris and all but I think JB is a done deal.

[KillerLeft]

@"KillerLeft" I am just being silly in all this. There is not an ounce of seriousness in this exchange for me. I TOO am giddy at the KP "problem" being behind the Mavs!

Oh, yeah, I get that, don't worry.

[ItsGoTime]

Hubris and all but I think JB is a done deal.

So was Goran.

[cow]

So was Goran.

Eh.  Really different situations.  I guess Dinwiddie is the commonality between the two though.

[ItsGoTime]

Eh.  Really different situations.  I guess Dinwiddie is the commonality between the two though.

I still put the odds in our favor, less favor because of the trade, but still in our favor.

Edit: It's just 20+ games and a playoff run is a LOOOOOOOONG time!

[dirkfansince1998]

Hockey Assists form double teams as an advanced stat would be interesting to show a player's gravity.  It probably already exists.

NBA.com is tracking secondary assists but I cannot find a definition.

[Jommybone]

Would like to see a stat for points assisted. Assisting a 3 should be worth more than assisting a 2. Assisting 1 made free throw should count for something, even if the second is missed. It’s dumb how we track assists without weighting them.

[Kammrath]

NBA.com is tracking secondary assists but I cannot find a definition.

I assume it is, you get a "secondary assist" if you pass it to a guy who without dribbling gets an assist.

[Kammrath]

Would like to see a stat for points assisted. Assisting a 3 should be worth more than assisting a 2. Assisting 1 made free throw should count for something, even if the second is missed. It’s dumb how we track assists without weighting them.

For the year Luka is averaging:

58.0 passes
9.0 assists
1.1 secondary-assists
17.4 potential assists
23.2 assist-points-created

[cow]

Assists generated from a secondary-assist would be an interesting stat too.

[KillerLeft]

Assists generated from a secondary-assist would be an interesting stat too.

Unless I'm misunderstanding the term (or your question) I think 100% of secondary-assists generate assists on the next pass. My understanding is that this is what makes them secondary-assists.

[cow]

Unless I'm misunderstanding the term (or your question) I think 100% of secondary-assists generate assists on the next pass. My understanding is that this is what makes them secondary-assists.

Maybe phrasing it as how many of a players assists are solo assists (self generated) rather than coming from the secondary assist.

So if I dished 10 dimes and created 8 myself, 2 of my assists were helped by a secondary assist.