FA: Klay Thompson Comes to Dallas| 3yrs/50mil

[MAVS-SLO]

Does that now mean we still have a TPE from THJ trade to spend?

https://x.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1808985377669046507

That would be brutal to finish the offseason.

[Mapka]

Does that now mean we still have a TPE from THJ trade to spend?

https://x.com/KeithSmithNBA/status/1808985377669046507

That would be brutal to finish the offseason.

We are already hardcaped. We can't use the full TPE.

[MAVS-SLO]

We are already hardcaped. We can't use the full TPE.

Thank you. 

Do you know maybe how much can we use?

[DanSchwartzgan]

We are already hardcaped. We can't use the full TPE.

Probably the most pertinent exception we have now is the remaining $4.25mm we have left of the NT MLE.  We'll have a couple of TPE's on the books after 7/8, but the remaining MLE amount can also be used as a Trade Exception.  If we were to cut Lawson, carry 14 (and not add Morris), we could spend the entire $4.25mm on a free agent and still have a $600,000 cushion under the hard-cap.

The question we have now is whether anyone remaining is worth that amount and whether we'd be willing to guarantee three years or something less.  At this point they have to already be thinking about next summer where they will have a draft pick and Exum, Hardy and Grimes all as free agents.  They can go over the first apron at that point as long as they don't do something that hard caps them.  If they see a hole in the roster, they should be thinking about how to create flexibility for use later kind of like what happened with Seth and Green last summer.

[SleepingHero]

Probably the most pertinent exception we have now is the remaining $4.25mm we have left of the NT MLE.  We'll have a couple of TPE's on the books after 7/8, but the remaining MLE amount can also be used as a Trade Exception.  If we were to cut Lawson, carry 14 (and not add Morris), we could spend the entire $4.25mm on a free agent and still have a $600,000 cushion under the hard-cap.

The question we have now is whether anyone remaining is worth that amount and whether we'd be willing to guarantee three years or something less.  At this point they have to already be thinking about next summer where they will have a draft pick and Exum, Hardy and Grimes all as free agents.  They can go over the first apron at that point as long as they don't do something that hard caps them.  If they see a hole in the roster, they should be thinking about how to create flexibility for use later kind of like what happened with Seth and Green last summer.

The thing is, Morris will be back. He said it himself and Stein confirmed it. 

Unless the Mavs get out from Powell's contract for air, then the rest of our exceptions are done with.

[Chicagojk]

I listened to Logan Murdock on the Ringer NBA podcast. He has followed the Warriors. He had a 10-15 minute thing on Klay leaving. At one point he mentioned Klay to Dallas could be similar to Lamar Odom to Dallas. I certainly hope not. I think we can all forget about the 2017 Klay Thompson coming to Dallas, but there is a wide range from all star to Lamar Odom.

[Kidnova]

I listened to Logan Murdock on the Ringer NBA podcast.  He has followed the Warriors.  He had a 10-15 minute thing on Klay leaving.  At one point he mentioned Klay to Dallas could be similar to Lamar Odom to Dallas.  I certainly hope not.  I think we can all forget about the 2017 Klay Thompson coming to Dallas, but there is a wide range from all star to Lamar Odom.

His podcast should be immediately terminated for making a ridiculous statement like that.  Even if Klay went down in his first game and never played another minute for the Mavs it wouldn't be as bad as the Odom situation.  They gave up a FRP for that idiot.

[Winter]

He had a 10-15 minute thing on Klay leaving.  At one point he mentioned Klay to Dallas could be similar to Lamar Odom to Dallas. 

That's an exaggerated level of sour grapes in my opinion. In no way that I can even imagine is this like Lamar Odom.

[Chicagojk]

That's an exaggerated level of sour grapes in my opinion. In no way that I can even imagine is this like Lamar Odom.

I agree.  I don't think they expect an all star level Klay.  I think that is gone.   I think they would like a slightly taller, slightly better Tim Hardaway Jr.    Just one who won't go into a 3 month slump.   Klay will have some ups and downs.  Plenty of 3-14 shooting nights.  But they hope in a playoff series he has two game where he has one where he goes 8-12 from 3 and another 6-10 from three. Something like that.   Klay also has more gravity than THJ.  I think most teams didn't want to give Hardaway wide open looks but not to the same level as Klay.   

Will it be a home run success?   Time will tell.   I think he is coming to the right team if it is going to work though.

[WildArkieBoy]

Lamar Odom, Derek Fischer and even Rodman acted as if playing for the Mavs was a demotion in stature. Based on what we've all read, Klay sees things differently and his role seems pretty clearly defined and within his so-called wheelhouse.

[SleepingHero]

I listened to Logan Murdock on the Ringer NBA podcast.  He has followed the Warriors.  He had a 10-15 minute thing on Klay leaving.  At one point he mentioned Klay to Dallas could be similar to Lamar Odom to Dallas.  I certainly hope not.  I think we can all forget about the 2017 Klay Thompson coming to Dallas, but there is a wide range from all star to Lamar Odom.

That's about as disingenuous of a statement you could make about Klay leaving. Shaq Celtics? Sure. But Lamar Odom? Lamar was a drug addict who was dealing with a lot of personal issues by the time he came to Dallas.

Klay has no such issues.

I'll give Murdock a pass on this one, cause he's a Warrior fan who is obviously hurt by Klay's departure and is just saying ridiculous things in grief of the Splash brothers era coming to a close.

[audiosway]

I agree.  I don't think they expect an all star level Klay.  I think that is gone.   I think they would like a slightly taller, slightly better Tim Hardaway Jr.    Just one who won't go into a 3 month slump.   Klay will have some ups and downs.  Plenty of 3-14 shooting nights.  But they hope in a playoff series he has two game where he has one where he goes 8-12 from 3 and another 6-10 from three. Something like that.   Klay also has more gravity than THJ.  I think most teams didn't want to give Hardaway wide open looks but not to the same level as Klay.   

Will it be a home run success?   Time will tell.   I think he is coming to the right team if it is going to work though.

Actually, I don't think you are going to see those shooting slumps like that. There is distinct reason why Klay with GS was over but he wanted to play with Dallas.

With GS he was the 2nd option. Here, he is likely to be the 3rd/4th option depending on the night. GS plays a heavy movement system. Since he lost a step with the injuries that's not him anymore. Klay was never fast to begin with.

With Dallas Klay is going to be put into more of a spot up shooter/shooter off screens. He can also get into the mid range and either shoot or pass out of it. Those are things that he excels at. The Dallas system is exactly a perfect fit for how he plays at this point in his career.

Most nights you'll have Klay hitting wide open 3s and at most dodging a closeout or stepping up into the mid. Luka and Kai draw so much attention it will be like target practice for him. If they throw a double he is a very underrated passer that loves throwing pocket passes to a rolling big or even lobs.

I'm telling you guys that this is literally the perfect fit for Klay right now. The defense on most nights will be scrambling after a Luka or Kai drive kicks out to an open Klay. That's where they are going to create the movement in the offense they need to beat a Boston.

Klay in Dallas will now force Boston to not slack off of anyone on the court. The system Dallas is running won't change much. But, instead of DJJ or THJ wide open missing the rim Klay will be knocking them down or making another pass for a better shot.

This is coming from someone who has watched a lot of GS since about 2014.

[SleepingHero]

[SleepingHero]

Klay speaks!

[KillerLeft]

Here's Bobby Karalla breaking down how Thompson will fit into a lot of what Dallas already runs as part of the offense we saw last year. I'm getting more and more excited. 

https://youtu.be/dU-ELC-zS5M?si=9izICjsJBRFwXAFd

[F Gump]

We are already hardcaped. We can't use the full TPE.

To add to this and what DS added, the numbers are tight.

If we accept that Morris will return, Lawson or someone else can fill slot 15 on minimum salary, but it's VERY tight for a minimum.

Unless someone is traded, that's what we MIGHT have to spend (just minimum), and even that is iffy.

[audiosway]

Here's Bobby Karalla breaking down how Thompson will fit into a lot of what Dallas already runs as part of the offense we saw last year. I'm getting more and more excited. 

https://youtu.be/dU-ELC-zS5M?si=9izICjsJBRFwXAFd

I can't wait for the season to start. Klay is going to shock some people with how good he is in Dallas I think. He literally is a perfect fit for what they needed at this point in his career.

Great video btw. This is the exact stuff I was talking about in my post above. Klay is going to cook this year.

[Dundalis]

Actually, I don't think you are going to see those shooting slumps like that. There is distinct reason why Klay with GS was over but he wanted to play with Dallas.

With GS he was the 2nd option. Here, he is likely to be the 3rd/4th option depending on the night. GS plays a heavy movement system. Since he lost a step with the injuries that's not him anymore. Klay was never fast to begin with.

With Dallas Klay is going to be put into more of a spot up shooter/shooter off screens. He can also get into the mid range and either shoot or pass out of it. Those are things that he excels at. The Dallas system is exactly a perfect fit for how he plays at this point in his career.

Most nights you'll have Klay hitting wide open 3s and at most dodging a closeout or stepping up into the mid. Luka and Kai draw so much attention it will be like target practice for him. If they throw a double he is a very underrated passer that loves throwing pocket passes to a rolling big or even lobs.

I'm telling you guys that this is literally the perfect fit for Klay right now. The defense on most nights will be scrambling after a Luka or Kai drive kicks out to an open Klay. That's where they are going to create the movement in the offense they need to beat a Boston.

Klay in Dallas will now force Boston to not slack off of anyone on the court. The system Dallas is running won't change much. But, instead of DJJ or THJ wide open missing the rim Klay will be knocking them down or making another pass for a better shot.

This is coming from someone who has watched a lot of GS since about 2014.

While I don't disagree, I still think PJ is a potential weakness that an elite defense can hedge off of to keep some connectivity. I'm really hoping he can improve his shooting, because if one of our new guys comes through with the defense and can shoot, his spot might be up for grabs at some point later in the season.

For me the final upgrade if something becomes available maybe at the TDL is essentially someone that can do a lot of what PJ does but is also a good shooter.

[mvossman]

While I don't disagree, I still think PJ is a potential weakness that an elite defense can hedge off of to keep some connectivity. I'm really hoping he can improve his shooting, because if one of our new guys comes through with the defense and can shoot, his spot might be up for grabs at some point later in the season.

For me the final upgrade if something becomes available maybe at the TDL is essentially someone that can do a lot of what PJ does but is also a good shooter.

Who is that player?  The closest I can think of is Cam Johnson, but he would be expensive and I believe a downgrade defensively.  We have already traded more defense than I would like for offense in the starting lineup.  I'm even less sure it makes sense to go farther down that road.

[HoosierDaddyKid]

Lamar Odom, Derek Fischer and even Rodman acted as if playing for the Mavs was a demotion in stature.  Based on what we've all read, Klay sees things differently and his role seems pretty clearly defined and within his so-called wheelhouse.

I mean, those teams they played on weren't title contenders by any stretch. So, I can see it from their vantage point. This team is more talented.