Of Freedom, Country and Vaccination

[luka_skywalker_77]

Both of my Grandfathers and a step Grandfather fought in WWII, my guy. I've lost them all now, but believe me I've talked with them for HOURS about what that meant to them - why it was important. 

Did you miss the part where @"omahen" just basically said everything is the same in his country? My point is not that freedom isn't great, it's that the US is not the only country that has freedom. Far, far from it. I've spent time in China, Turkey and Greece. All of those places were quite different from our country, but in all of those places people actually seemed fairly free. Some of what we think we have over everyone else in this world is only our head. I know that to be factual, not my opinion, because I've been there. I've seen it. Now...would I want to live anywhere else? No, I'm an American! There are definitely things that make me love America above all other countries, but what we're talking about here is not one of them.



Some do. Many, many don't. I have spoken to some on both sides of that coin. At the end of the day, it's kind of not something I feel falls into the "none of our business" category, actually. It's a matter of public health, yeah? Clearly, not everyone agrees with this take because there are some who feel exactly like you do. Even as I was typing the earlier post, I knew it was a bad idea to post it. It wasn't my intention to trigger anyone (or to bring politics into this forum at all). I apologize for doing so. 

But, every assumption you just made about me is false. That's ok.

What i am saying is that your health and anything regarding it is of no concern to anyone else, even in this situation because the preventative measure dont stop you from getting it or passing it. Plus there are risk calculation that we all need to make on a personal level because their circumstances are not the same as everyone elses. The data doesn't even support what they are trying to do and if you dont agree, we have a years worth of data to trawl through (large scale events) to indicate whether or not the event spiked cases counts of deaths. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the data isn't in your favor, otherwise it would have been a major topic of discussion. This is just another ham-fisted attempt at solving an issue by doing any and everything but. 

And it wasn't my intension to **** at you; i's just tired of interfacing with the lack of critical thinking on behalf of most people i talk to about these things (present company excluded). but what we have in this country matters, even if you dont agree with the application and often times people lose sight of that despite their histories and their knowledge on the subject.

That freedom, that difference, needs to be respected and given that youre vaccinated, youve done your part to keep yourself "safe", but your idea of safe doesn't place a demand on someone else to follow your example, especially when there is little to no difference between both ideas.

The difference is your freedom requires me to inject an experimental solution into my body, in order to enjoy the freedom i already had/given to me via citizenship/birthright/human. That's the problem. It's not like a seat belt.