2021-2022 ROSTER TALK: [ARCHIVED]

[dirkfansince1998]

Its interesting because based on every advanced stat, they are not close in KPs favor.  Turner has been a below offensive player most of his career, but has been much better this year (possibly the Rick effect) at roughly .5 to 1 above average in offensive plus minus (OBPM, OEPM, O-Lebron) whereas KP has been roughly 2 above average most of his career and roughly 3 this year.

It seems regardless of whether you are looking at boxscore or on/off KP is way better.  From an advanced boxscore perspective, it seems that volume trumps efficiency, at least to a degree.  It also appears that KP has a much better on/off impact offensively.

Raw on/off is really noisy but favors Turner. Overall I tend to agree with you. Boxscore numbers aren´t everything and they aren´t telling us anyting about things like defensive attention/gravity. Would argue that KP is drawing more attention from the defense.
Just talking about the maths that are used in most boxscore based metrics Turner is getting punished for a negative ast/tov ratio. An area where KP improved a lot. So far he is having the best passing season of his career.

But just like I mentioned. It leads to the question if Turner could produce similar or even better numbers on similar volume in a more featured role (without Sabonis next to him). And even more important for the Mavs. Also looking back at the last season under RC. Would the Mavs offense be better with a reduced role for KP. on/off numbers suggest as much.
KPs role in the offense remains one of the most interesting topics. Maybe the easiest solution is a better balance. KP still getting some opportunities but not ranking among the top 5 in post up volume. Personally I am starting to think of him as the 3rd option behind Luka and Brunson.

Or as discussed in this thread. Find a replacement with other strengths (and weaknesses). A better fitting piece. Maybe Turner´s superior defense and efficient shooting is exactly that if it means that Doncic and especially Brunson get more opportunities with better spacing.