02-12-2021, 12:15 PM
(02-12-2021, 11:22 AM)mtrot Wrote: Umm, the American army fighting the British were not trying to "take their stuff", or anything like that. They were trying to keep the British from taxing them without any representation. I don't understand why you can't see the necessity for people to form a government to protect them. Just review world history for a while and you will see why it's necessary.
I loved those "protest" and "peace" songs from the 1960's, and I wish the world could work like that and "sing in perfect harmony". But it never will, because of human nature. The truly intelligent person learns from the past and recognizes the true nature of humans. The only solution is to attempt to form "a more perfect union", based on a set of commonly shared and agreed upon mores and beliefs, which is what our founders did.
And, no, a civil society cannot, again keeping in mind human nature and the lessons of history, allow theft of other people's property to become acceptable, because then it really is going to degenerate into the survival of the strongest. The strong will simply take what they want and to hell with the others.
Ok.
Sooo...why did we invade Iraq and Afghanistan? Because some dudes in sandals had World altering WMD? The best military in the World had bad intelligence? They just HAPPENED to have a bunch of oil? Or was it for Global positioning so we could build bases there to keep and eye on other countries? If so...why were we fed WMD? Legit questions. Ok...I get it...it had nothing to do with us and they were no threat to us...we were helping our allies.
Im not anti-military...im anti-lies.
One of you mentioned protecting your country...how is teaching kids to be civil making your country stronger? In your opinion...should Governments attack civilian men for not joining the military?
Listen...I dont hate America...I just think there are a bunch of lies and no one wants to admit it? Why? Psychology? War?
Im the bad guy though.