oh, man!
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Great points made about the value of Timmy to this team. The answer basically stands behind the anticipation/perception wall. The THj KillerLeft views is very valuable. But I would disagree that he has proven to be that player on a consistent basis. I am somewhat hopeful by his last year's contribution, but in fact expect him to be inconsistent, and not reliable in playoffs based on his past production and frequent duds he is putting out there. Where people see good overall production, I see a player who won us games which would otherwise be lost and then lost games when we had to depend on him. That is not something I would build on. Hence, the sixth man role for him is perfect to me. (But we already have another albeit lesser random on/off scorer in Burke. More of that later).
On the other hand, if JRich can bring some on-the-move scoring and reliable spot up shooting, alongside his defense and secondary play making, that would also diminish the need of Tim's contribution for this team. People who look at his Philly season will say this is not likely, others will point out his Miami tenure and say it was Philly's mucked up spacing that messed up JRich's output.
Then there is Jalen Brunson. Between Brunson, Burke, JRich and Timmy; depending on what you expect from these guys, you might rather want to upgrade Maxi's spot in Burekemde's line up instead of keeping Timmy, enabling Maxi to back up both big positions. Because we already have other (cheaper) instant offense options from the guard position. Instead of the Dodo - Tim switch, we can always move Luka on to a non threat four and bring in Jalen - Trey for Dodo or Maxi.
Luka - JRich - Dodo - Maxi - KP
Jalen - JRich - Dodo - Luka - KP
The good thing is, The FO still have more than 50 games to make up their mind. Or 20-25, if they decide to ship out Jojo and Tim's expirings at the deadline.
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There is also this side convo about the pseudo-scientific "advanced" stats which I enjoyed a lot. Everybody seems to be aware that these are full of noise and standardize a lot situational data which were quantified by leaving a lot of layers out. It is important to grasp that aspect and know, that our particular coach puts our limited players in situations to succeed and other well rounded players to cover for them, so that we don't end up with conclusions like "Dwight Powell is a better defender than Maxi Kleber".
A def or off rating of a player (or a pair) is not really the rating of that player. It is an aggregate rating of the line ups that involved the player(s) against various line ups. We already know this but choose to ignore. The assumption is, with a large enough data pool it should give us an idea about the player's actual contribution, yet one can consistently hide a lesser player among better ones and throw a great player out there to carry bench units.
Great points made about the value of Timmy to this team. The answer basically stands behind the anticipation/perception wall. The THj KillerLeft views is very valuable. But I would disagree that he has proven to be that player on a consistent basis. I am somewhat hopeful by his last year's contribution, but in fact expect him to be inconsistent, and not reliable in playoffs based on his past production and frequent duds he is putting out there. Where people see good overall production, I see a player who won us games which would otherwise be lost and then lost games when we had to depend on him. That is not something I would build on. Hence, the sixth man role for him is perfect to me. (But we already have another albeit lesser random on/off scorer in Burke. More of that later).
On the other hand, if JRich can bring some on-the-move scoring and reliable spot up shooting, alongside his defense and secondary play making, that would also diminish the need of Tim's contribution for this team. People who look at his Philly season will say this is not likely, others will point out his Miami tenure and say it was Philly's mucked up spacing that messed up JRich's output.
Then there is Jalen Brunson. Between Brunson, Burke, JRich and Timmy; depending on what you expect from these guys, you might rather want to upgrade Maxi's spot in Burekemde's line up instead of keeping Timmy, enabling Maxi to back up both big positions. Because we already have other (cheaper) instant offense options from the guard position. Instead of the Dodo - Tim switch, we can always move Luka on to a non threat four and bring in Jalen - Trey for Dodo or Maxi.
Luka - JRich - Dodo - Maxi - KP
Jalen - JRich - Dodo - Luka - KP
The good thing is, The FO still have more than 50 games to make up their mind. Or 20-25, if they decide to ship out Jojo and Tim's expirings at the deadline.
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There is also this side convo about the pseudo-scientific "advanced" stats which I enjoyed a lot. Everybody seems to be aware that these are full of noise and standardize a lot situational data which were quantified by leaving a lot of layers out. It is important to grasp that aspect and know, that our particular coach puts our limited players in situations to succeed and other well rounded players to cover for them, so that we don't end up with conclusions like "Dwight Powell is a better defender than Maxi Kleber".
A def or off rating of a player (or a pair) is not really the rating of that player. It is an aggregate rating of the line ups that involved the player(s) against various line ups. We already know this but choose to ignore. The assumption is, with a large enough data pool it should give us an idea about the player's actual contribution, yet one can consistently hide a lesser player among better ones and throw a great player out there to carry bench units.