11-18-2020, 11:19 AM
(This post was last modified: 11-18-2020, 11:24 AM by khaled1987.)
I am gonna talk serious for first time in past few days in this thread.
It was few days ago that someone here said Mavs banking on the draft might be their best bet, and I absolutely agree.
If you want to keep Luka long term, the best strategy is to get him a younger sidekick, or at least someone who is a year older at most, but you feel comfortable with his durability, KP doesn't fit the description.
Otherwise you will always risk the possibility of losing Luka for a team with better and younger sidekick, or turning into another Lebron/Cavs team who improved too early and failed to get him an elite young sidekick. Obviously that is the worst case scenario and Mavs front office is better than that.
My point is, we need a Klay to Curry, or Manu to Duncan type of addition.
Those were the 2 most stable dynasties in this century. Those are the ones we hope to emulate
That is extremely difficult, no doubt about it
If the Mavs feels comfortable about someone, that he is the really the "One" they they should go all in and deal with the consequences.
If they ,for example, if they agree with @"Kammrath" that Hayes is future superstar, and he will cost some important players like DFS or Maxi etc, then go all in for it.
If they feel there is someone they like at 18, don't risk it to move down unless you are 100% sure of who you want will be available.
This is likely our last draft in the Luka era that we will have top 20 pick, plus a high 2nd and some role players to spare as trading asset. Don't be too afraid.
Regarding of who we pick, I like many and I think when it is all said and done it will be remembered as good draft.
Judging by history: Mavs loves guards who handles the ball, and international player.
Judging by current style of play we appreciate shooting as most important skill, and we have focused on shooting with our workouts.
My favourites for moving up even if it cost one of our role -non Luka/KP- players:
Haliburton: I have him as my number one prospect, I think he actually have a chance to be drafted there. He is one of those who check most boxes, who will fit every team regardless of who they have or what type of game they are running. A jack of all trades, but also master of many. The biggest issue with him is whether his shooting will translate as he has this awkward mechanics. If he isn't picked top 8 and we had a chance to move up, I want it.
Isaac Okoro: A swiss army knife, not a great shooter but excels in everything else, he will be that rare kind of players, who is a star "glue guy" in contender, the Iggy/Draymond type of players.
Won't trade anyone for him tbh, but might accept. If he falls out of 10 and team want 2nd round and/or Brunson for him, I would consider it.
Onyeka Okongwu: Perfect fit for PF spot, especially if we realize that Giannis is indeed re-signing, and that Bucks aren't just crazy who is gambling all without promise.
He will add a lot of defense but also offense. But just like Okoro he is a situational case, if out of top 10 for some reason I would put Brunson.
Killian Hayes: Kam really convinced me with him, if Mavs share same views, he is a must get at any price not named Luka/KP.
PS: For me I think Brunson is our most likely movable asset, I really like him but he is a back up PG for us, which is easily replaceable, OTOH many teams could see him as a good starting PG for them in a year or two. So higher value for others than Mavs
Players to combine 18 + 31 and even future 2nd for:
Nesmith: elite shooter.
Devin Vassell: 3 & D player
Saddiq Bey: Very good fit at 4 for us
Players at 18, other than the aforementioned players:
Aleksej Pokuševski: I am warming up to the idea of him tbh. He is the high risk high reward player.
His measurements is known late in the draft but is super impressive, sort of like what happened with KP in 2015, he has grown up in Serbia, and we know that the former Yugoslavia seems like it holds the future of basketball atm, they put ton of emphasis on fundamentals and feel for the game, at 14 moved to Greece in one of its best academies, his raw tools are just impressive.
He seems like that type of guy that either teams regretting passing on, or regret selecting.
Theo Maledon: One of the best passers in the draft IMO, high IQ and capable scorer at the same time, is the type of player who if succeeded will be perfect fit next to Luka. Defense is suspect but he has the tools.
Tyrell Terry: Elite shooter, decent passer, can be second ball handler and play off the ball. Defense is suspect. I honestly think he will end up in the lottery, but mock drafts disagree.
2nd round targets:
Desmond Bane: High IQ shooter.
Leandro Bolmaro: Great passer and ball handler, but really not sold on him.
Immanuel Quickley: Great shooter, potential back up PG, and I have something for Callipari guys.
Udoka Azubuike: Decent big that could be the next Mitchel Robinson type of guy
Cassius Winston: He screams Mavs pick, I am one of his few fans
PS: I also concede that half the names in my list will be no bodies that we will all forgot they exist in 3 years from now
It was few days ago that someone here said Mavs banking on the draft might be their best bet, and I absolutely agree.
If you want to keep Luka long term, the best strategy is to get him a younger sidekick, or at least someone who is a year older at most, but you feel comfortable with his durability, KP doesn't fit the description.
Otherwise you will always risk the possibility of losing Luka for a team with better and younger sidekick, or turning into another Lebron/Cavs team who improved too early and failed to get him an elite young sidekick. Obviously that is the worst case scenario and Mavs front office is better than that.
My point is, we need a Klay to Curry, or Manu to Duncan type of addition.
Those were the 2 most stable dynasties in this century. Those are the ones we hope to emulate
That is extremely difficult, no doubt about it
If the Mavs feels comfortable about someone, that he is the really the "One" they they should go all in and deal with the consequences.
If they ,for example, if they agree with @"Kammrath" that Hayes is future superstar, and he will cost some important players like DFS or Maxi etc, then go all in for it.
If they feel there is someone they like at 18, don't risk it to move down unless you are 100% sure of who you want will be available.
This is likely our last draft in the Luka era that we will have top 20 pick, plus a high 2nd and some role players to spare as trading asset. Don't be too afraid.
Regarding of who we pick, I like many and I think when it is all said and done it will be remembered as good draft.
Judging by history: Mavs loves guards who handles the ball, and international player.
Judging by current style of play we appreciate shooting as most important skill, and we have focused on shooting with our workouts.
My favourites for moving up even if it cost one of our role -non Luka/KP- players:
Haliburton: I have him as my number one prospect, I think he actually have a chance to be drafted there. He is one of those who check most boxes, who will fit every team regardless of who they have or what type of game they are running. A jack of all trades, but also master of many. The biggest issue with him is whether his shooting will translate as he has this awkward mechanics. If he isn't picked top 8 and we had a chance to move up, I want it.
Isaac Okoro: A swiss army knife, not a great shooter but excels in everything else, he will be that rare kind of players, who is a star "glue guy" in contender, the Iggy/Draymond type of players.
Won't trade anyone for him tbh, but might accept. If he falls out of 10 and team want 2nd round and/or Brunson for him, I would consider it.
Onyeka Okongwu: Perfect fit for PF spot, especially if we realize that Giannis is indeed re-signing, and that Bucks aren't just crazy who is gambling all without promise.
He will add a lot of defense but also offense. But just like Okoro he is a situational case, if out of top 10 for some reason I would put Brunson.
Killian Hayes: Kam really convinced me with him, if Mavs share same views, he is a must get at any price not named Luka/KP.
PS: For me I think Brunson is our most likely movable asset, I really like him but he is a back up PG for us, which is easily replaceable, OTOH many teams could see him as a good starting PG for them in a year or two. So higher value for others than Mavs
Players to combine 18 + 31 and even future 2nd for:
Nesmith: elite shooter.
Devin Vassell: 3 & D player
Saddiq Bey: Very good fit at 4 for us
Players at 18, other than the aforementioned players:
Aleksej Pokuševski: I am warming up to the idea of him tbh. He is the high risk high reward player.
His measurements is known late in the draft but is super impressive, sort of like what happened with KP in 2015, he has grown up in Serbia, and we know that the former Yugoslavia seems like it holds the future of basketball atm, they put ton of emphasis on fundamentals and feel for the game, at 14 moved to Greece in one of its best academies, his raw tools are just impressive.
He seems like that type of guy that either teams regretting passing on, or regret selecting.
Theo Maledon: One of the best passers in the draft IMO, high IQ and capable scorer at the same time, is the type of player who if succeeded will be perfect fit next to Luka. Defense is suspect but he has the tools.
Tyrell Terry: Elite shooter, decent passer, can be second ball handler and play off the ball. Defense is suspect. I honestly think he will end up in the lottery, but mock drafts disagree.
2nd round targets:
Desmond Bane: High IQ shooter.
Leandro Bolmaro: Great passer and ball handler, but really not sold on him.
Immanuel Quickley: Great shooter, potential back up PG, and I have something for Callipari guys.
Udoka Azubuike: Decent big that could be the next Mitchel Robinson type of guy
Cassius Winston: He screams Mavs pick, I am one of his few fans
PS: I also concede that half the names in my list will be no bodies that we will all forgot they exist in 3 years from now