08-11-2020, 01:53 AM
(08-10-2020, 02:21 PM)omahen Wrote: A lot of you are Mavs fans longer then I am. I hear about "Donnie magic" all the time. However, outside of Nowitzki, Luka and KP trades, was there any other trade that was really good for Mavs? I think it was more or less a disaster from team building perspective from 2011 to 2017. Than Luka and KP happened, the rest was bad.
Prior to 2011? Jet for Mavs was great deal, same with Harris to Mavs.
Kidd for Harris wasn't great trade, but eventually it worked for our favor.
Marion trade was brilliant, Butler/Haywood/Stevenson was great trade too. Tyson to the Mavs was the trade we needed to build the team.
Basically our 2011 roster was: Kidd/Terry/Stevenson/Marion/Chandler/Haywood all came from trades between 2004 and 2010. Add Dirk and our undrafted project Barea and all the roster was constructed by Donnie
Between 2011 & 2017 there were decent deals,but nothing franchise changing.
We got Chandler (again), Calderon, Ellis, Mayo, Collison, Barnes Jameer Nelson for very little. We sucked at free agency and we were disaster in draft (passing on likes of Butler,Draymond Green,Fournier, Giannis in 3 consecutive drafts) and Mitchel and Adebayo in 2017 draft. Best we got for passing on those players was Crowder whom we then traded for Rondo. We got lucky that Powell developed well with us.
To their credit, we also developed undrafted players like DFS and Maxi into good rotation players/starters.
2019 was back to underwhelming off-season. You can always say in they had a plan and that is the reason for not doing X or Y moves. But at the end every team that sucked thought they were making good moves and had a plan. Knicks traded KP because they thought that will make them get 2 of Davis/KD/Kyrie, this doesn't make their move less terrible.
We will need to up our game, starting from draft night. No need for those " let's save money and acquire 28 future second round picks and pick someone who will be out of the league after 10 games" type of moves. Either draft best available player after good evaluation, or move it for someone ready to contribute.
Trading down for extra 2nd round picks has been a habit and recipe of disaster.