11-26-2025, 01:58 PM
(11-26-2025, 06:10 AM)F Gump Wrote: ITEM 1 - I absolutely 1000% think this ^ is a massively wrong evaluation, even though thoughts like this about Lively (expectations he is looming as a future all-star dominant big) from lots and lots of posters are often repeated in various threads.
What is being ignored - and imo it's a MAJOR part of player evaluation -- is that a player has to be evaluated based on "regularly repeatable" ability, not on "peak" ability. Lots of players can look like an all-star in 1 game, but the true all-star is the one who can play at that level in about EVERY game.
And Lively has not ever shown "regularly repeatable" ability to play at a high level in every game - because he hasn't shown that he can be available, way too often, to even play at all. Even when he plays he's not really a 30 mpg guy on a regular basis, as far as we have EVER seen. The injuries have been an issue over and over and over and over. As the old saying goes, the top ability for a player is availability. We have seen no potential at all for Lively to have ongoing consistent availability.
I think this is misinterpreting "peak" on the basketball court vs "peak" in terms of games played in a season with the latter being the concern, saying "Moussa Cisse has the potential to be an all star" would match up with your one game comment but we're talking about a guy who still has a large sample size of playing winning basketball at the highest levels.
Also a reason I put potential because of course it would take more games to prove that but from the skill standpoint it's not like we've only seen him play a month of basketball or something. I think the idea of seeing no potential for Lively to have consistent availability is where I disagree with a lot of sports fan. We're an incredibly reactionary society these days and we act like a foot injury means we got to dig this kid a grave a put a fork in him. Literally every single able bodied human being has the potential to correct health issues, especially at such a young age. Some more than others sure and like I said, if we weren't in rebuilding mode then I'd probably be looking to maximize value but that's pretty far from the case.
Again, my argument here is that it feels like everyone is convinced that he'll never be able to be more available than he is now and there is LITERALLY no way for anyone here to know that and this franchise is in a position where it's a very small gamble to find out over the next few seasons.


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