08-26-2025, 02:29 AM
(08-26-2025, 01:26 AM)mvossman Wrote: I don't find your arguments convincing. I don't think people equate "not in their prime" to "falling off a cliff".
You also made a completely false statement: "and who will not EVER be what he was (your very words)". These are not my words. I said it was not likely. You can't seem to make a response without doing something like this.
And you keep making the assertion that Kyrie was "just as good as a player can be at 33", and "playing at an All-NBA level". What is that based on? His numbers are down from previous years. His TS% is down, his points, assists and assist rate is down and his turnovers and turnover rate is up. Its not by a lot, but I don't see anything to suggest your two statements are accurate.
Sorry, but
1 A player going from an All-NBA level to out of their prime is indeed a major drop. Yes, I think Kyrie objectively played at that level last season until he was injured, and would have been selected had he not been injured. Why? He carried the Mavs all season, he was selected to the All-Star game, and he elevated his game even further after the trade. The fluctuations in the numbers were minor, he was one of the most clutch players in the league, and his efficiency shooting numbers were 48/40/92 which are stellar.
2 Nothing false at all in what I said. Or altering. Of course. Here you go again. I quoted you verbatim with quotation marks to lead off the post you are answering. It was cut-and-paste from your own post, which said "I don't think he will ever be what he was." I later below alluded to that comment of yours (this time without quotation marks) by using who will not EVER be what he was (your exact words) [which yes, those words in bold are exact word for word from the quote and convey its sense accurately] and now you want to claim that's not accurate? Good grief, what nonsense.