11-05-2024, 11:12 AM
(11-05-2024, 09:16 AM)Ghost of Podkolzin Wrote: Ya, he seems to just post opinions without checking the facts. I'm not going to state "the trade was..." without researching it first. My opinions come from facts. My facts don't come from my opinions.
My point is that if Kyrie was worth 2 starters and 3 picks (one an unprotected FRP) at the lowest point in his career, he's worth much more now. How much? I'm not exactly sure, but perhaps enough to package our 2025 FRP and OMax types.
I'm going to ignore your inflammatory remarks because I'm trying to talk about basketball and not get into juvenile fights.
I'm not sure Kyrie is worth that much more now than he was at the time of the trade. I think he is a very good player when he is happy, and his happiness is wildly dependent on his current situation/environment, and nobody knows what situations will make him happy. As happy as he seems to be in Dallas, I think any team would consider it a huge risk that putting him into a completely different environment has a strong possibility of not making him happy. He is also nearly two years older since the trade and past his prime. He has not shown any signs of falling off a cliff yet, but that is another significant risk to a potential buying team.
If I had to guess, I would say Kyrie is worth maybe 2 or 3 firsts to the right team (if you consider DFS one first round pick value at the time of the trade this is roughly the difference between our valuations of that trade). That is just so far from Giannis value. Regardless, my guess is that the Bucks would want actual young talent and not just a bushel of picks, and the only significant option we would have to offer is Lively.