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[mvossman]

1 When it comes to an offer to avoid dealing with free agency, or not, I think of Brunson and how that played out.
...1a If we use Green as a comp, it's a cautionary tale about assuming a player's game value will take a jump and paying him accordingly, and then it doesn't. (That's the question on Grimes right now -- will his game value somehow take a jump, or won't it? Because if you sign him and yr 3 is who he is, even 7M is an overpay by a lot.)

2 You may be right that my idea is too low, but please don't misstate my words. I'm guessing 7-10 as the starting number. 

3 I strongly disagree that Grimes has proven anything yet. His year 2 was very good, but yr 3 was awful and not MLE level play. As that's the most recent, that's a red flag.

Is Green a cautionary tale?  Didn't he turn out to be a small but positive asset in that trade?

I'm not sure how you can say Grimes hasn't proven anything yet.  In his second year at age 22 he was a quality starter on a playoff team.  That's more than we could ever say about Green.  If he had continued that trajectory he would be looking for a lot more than anybody is discussing.  His third year (which is not nearly as bad as you are making it out to be) is the only reason there is a possibility he gets less than MLE.