(10-20-2024, 12:19 PM)mvossman Wrote: 1 I'm not sure why you would be using Brunson as a comp when Green is a more recent situation, a much more similar player and basically played the role that Grimes was brought in to replace.
2 I agree with some of your concerns and I'm a little surprised Mavs are looking at this now, but I think that range is too low. 3 Grimes has already proven to be worth the MLE in the past and if he wants to bet anything on himself it won't be at 7 mil.
1 When it comes to an offer to avoid dealing with free agency, or not, I think of Brunson and how that played out.
...1a If we use Green as a comp, it's a cautionary tale about assuming a player's game value will take a jump and paying him accordingly, and then it doesn't. (That's the question on Grimes right now -- will his game value somehow take a jump, or won't it? Because if you sign him and yr 3 is who he is, even 7M is an overpay by a lot.)
2 You may be right that my idea is too low, but please don't misstate my words. I'm guessing 7-10 as the starting number.
3 I strongly disagree that Grimes has proven anything yet. His year 2 was very good, but yr 3 was awful and not MLE level play. As that's the most recent, that's a red flag.
EDITED TO ADD - His preseason stats look like last year. 38% overall, 25% on 3s, quite dreadful. Not a good sign. I wonder what the Mavs are seeing that has made them want to talk a deal -- or are they just seeing what his demands are, to get a feel for next summer? Trying to get a feel for whether there's a number available that's worth gambling on? I do think he could end up trade fodder during the season, if they think his summer 2025 demands will be quite unrealistic compared to his actual play that it's not worth it.