3 "You do THJ/Maxi for Grant in 23/24. ".....THJ-Maxi for Grant in 23-24 is more than 100% for DAL (and oddly, for POR too) so it creates a hard cap. This is what I was asking about the other day. I found a Bobby Marks video from two months ago. He details that as soon as the season is over, even teams under the apron can't "take back more money in a trade" or they will be hard-capped in the new season. In fact, they can't do any of the things that will get you hard capped in the new season once the old season ends unless they find a way to stay under the apron in the new season.
He also talks about how the league looks ahead at your finances to the new season. What wasn't plain from the video was the situation where a trade didn't take back more money in the current (just finished season). I was trying to frame the THJ/Maxi deal as "not" taking back more money because it isn't "in June". Grant makes more in 24/25 because his salary goes up while THJ's goes down. What you are saying is the league applies the standard in both time frames. You can't take back more money using salaries for both the old NBA year or the new NBA year. Mark's didn't address that.
4 Obtaining a 2024 2nd rounder has the potential to help on the salary front, but is only useful if there's a player you can get that is actually worth having on your roster. If not, your roster is effectively only 13, which is problematic if you also lack the ability to spend and add when injuries occur. I was actually trying to make the second rounder the 15th player as I intended to use the TP MLE for the 14th player because I thought I had found a trick to keep from getting hard capped.
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ITEM 3
if I understand your point here, you have come to the wrong conclusion in applying what I said.
The Marks info is correct. If you do something in June that is a trigger for a hard cap, then that hard cap will continue to apply to the end of the following season (in this case, to June 30, 2025).
But there is no "both time frames" rule when a salary match is calculated. It simply is what it is, on that trade day. The reason "THJ/Maxi for Grant in 23/24" would require a >100% match for DAL (and for POR too, fwiw) is that in June, the Mavs outgoing salary total would be less than what they take back. THJ's salary credit applied (TPE) is not normal in a June trade because he's on a declining contract -- and it's a different number used for DAL than for POR.
ITEM 4
If you don't have a hard cap, then there's no salary-difference value in a 2nd rounder (except it saves Dumont some salary and tax). With no hard cap, you can sail past Apron 1 and then some, and can use whatever exceptions you have (minimums and TxMLE), just so long as you don't exceed Apron 2.
He also talks about how the league looks ahead at your finances to the new season. What wasn't plain from the video was the situation where a trade didn't take back more money in the current (just finished season). I was trying to frame the THJ/Maxi deal as "not" taking back more money because it isn't "in June". Grant makes more in 24/25 because his salary goes up while THJ's goes down. What you are saying is the league applies the standard in both time frames. You can't take back more money using salaries for both the old NBA year or the new NBA year. Mark's didn't address that.
4 Obtaining a 2024 2nd rounder has the potential to help on the salary front, but is only useful if there's a player you can get that is actually worth having on your roster. If not, your roster is effectively only 13, which is problematic if you also lack the ability to spend and add when injuries occur. I was actually trying to make the second rounder the 15th player as I intended to use the TP MLE for the 14th player because I thought I had found a trick to keep from getting hard capped.
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ITEM 3
if I understand your point here, you have come to the wrong conclusion in applying what I said.
The Marks info is correct. If you do something in June that is a trigger for a hard cap, then that hard cap will continue to apply to the end of the following season (in this case, to June 30, 2025).
But there is no "both time frames" rule when a salary match is calculated. It simply is what it is, on that trade day. The reason "THJ/Maxi for Grant in 23/24" would require a >100% match for DAL (and for POR too, fwiw) is that in June, the Mavs outgoing salary total would be less than what they take back. THJ's salary credit applied (TPE) is not normal in a June trade because he's on a declining contract -- and it's a different number used for DAL than for POR.
ITEM 4
If you don't have a hard cap, then there's no salary-difference value in a 2nd rounder (except it saves Dumont some salary and tax). With no hard cap, you can sail past Apron 1 and then some, and can use whatever exceptions you have (minimums and TxMLE), just so long as you don't exceed Apron 2.