Trade & FA 2024-25:

[SleepingHero]

That feels more realistic.  I'll join mvossman in buying Smitty a beer if the deal ends up being THJ/2nd for Grimes (maybe two beers).

If I have Avdija as a starter, I don't really care if I have Green or Jones coming off the bench.  Your use of Green to Washington makes more sense than THJ to Washington, so if you can also do the deal with Detroit to retain DJJ, I'm in.

Green and 2025 for Avdija probably isn't enough.  Would you be willing to add 2031?  Unprotected?  Top 3 protected?  Unprotected Pick Swap?  I think that gets you more into the conversation.  If you watched the Marks video, this is the kind of thing he was advocating.  Salary plus both picks for a real difference maker.

I probably balk at including 2031 at all for Avdija. 2 FRP's for a non all-star and fringe top 100 player is way too much. WAY too much.

This is every single transaction the last 4 years that included FRPs. 

Past trades that included a single first for a guy last 4 years: 
Terry Roizer
PJ Washington
Daniel Gafford
Kelly Olynyk
CP3 (salary dump w/Poole included but still 1 first was sent)
Marcus Smart/KP trade 
Eric Gordon to LAC + Luke Kennard to MEM
Josh Hart
Jakob Poeltl
Mike Conley/D'Lo/Westbrook trade
Kyrie Irving
Malcom Brogdon
Kevin Heurter
Jerami Grant
Kemba/Duren draft night trade (this one was mega complicated so I don't really want to put it in the list but for accuracy I'll leave it)
Royce O'Neal
Derrick White
Thad Young+Drew Eubanks for Dragic
CJ McCollum (and a bunch of role players)
Caris Lavert
Cam Reddish
Lauri Markkannen (CHI got DJJ! Lauri to CLE)
DeMar DeRozan
Valanciunas/Adams swap (Plus a 1st included)
Al Horford (to PHI and again to BOS 2 years later)
Victor Oladipo
Aaron Gordon
PJ Tucker
Westbrook (to WAS)
Trevor Ariza
CP3 (to PHX)

Multiple firsts included for a guy last 4 years:
Pascal Siakam
James Harden (To PHI *only 2 frp)
Jrue Holiday (*only 2 frp to BOS. And also only 2 FRP to MIL)
Dame Lillard
Bradley Beal
Kevin Durant
Donovan Mitchell
Rudy Gobert
Dejounte Murray
Ousmane Dieng (draft night trade w/OKC)
James Harden (2nd time to LAC)
Alperen Sengun (only 2, draft night trade w/OKC)
Nikola Vucevic
James Harden (To BRK)


I know it's a block of text, but look at each list and compare Avdija right now. He's only worth a single 1st that's probably protected. Maybe an additional 2nd. No way are 2 FRP's included. An unprotected FRP for him is already insane value because I didn't include the protections for each transaction (only Jrue, Harden, Lillard, Durant, Mitchell, Gobert, Murray, and PJ Tucker were traded for unprotected 1sts the last 4 years.

My best package for Avdija is Green+2025 top 3 protected+ 1 2nd.