(05-31-2024, 04:45 PM)Luka77 Wrote: That team would be around for the next 5 years as they are all around Luka's timeline. I think you spend the assets to get that done. Moreover, those 3 players may only be a sixth man for the next two season. After that time maybe a 34 y.o Kyrie will be okay with taking a back seat to become a sixth man. Regardless, their desired role is something you talk about before the trade. I'm thinking one of those guys would be willing to sacrifice to win a championship.
Also at what age did Dorian learn to shoot? There was little evidence of him learning at 24 yo either. I think it would worth taking a chance at bc the Mavs would have four 6'6 to 6'8 defenders to throw at people like SGA, Ant, Tatum, Brown, ect.
Maxi, who has two years less on contract, would be the salary to take on Vando. The real assets would be the two seconds. If LAL does truly want to get off Vando, I don't know if they could get better for a player I'm not sure is healthy himself.
I don't think its common for a young really good offensive player to be interested in moving into a situation where he will be third fiddle and coming off the bench and might be able to crack the starting lineup after two years. Some vets who have been around the block might think like that, but very few of the young guys do. Those players need to look at their long term value too. I'm sure they saw how Brunson value exploded once he got out from under Luka shadow. I think you are asking/assuming a lot for them to be ok to come here and play from the bench.
Dorian is a single example of a player greatly improving their three point shooting. How many have tried and failed. I don't think the odds are in Vanderbilts favor. They are different type players anyways. A big part of Dorian's offensive game was the 3 (he just wasn't very good at it). He took 5 threes per 36 right out of the gate. In 6 seasons Vanderbilt hasn't taken much more than one 3 per 36.
I think we need to be real careful with assuming/expecting players to improve in areas just because we have seen it happen before. Dorian improving is three is not likely to mean Vanderbilt will, just like PJ playing much better defense here is not likely to turn Simons into a decent defender.