10-15-2019, 12:59 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-15-2019, 01:01 PM by luka_skywalker_77.)
(10-14-2019, 11:50 AM)fifteenth Wrote:Perhaps i was a bit on the lazy side when i initially responded, so i'll provide more context as this issue progresses.(10-14-2019, 10:42 AM)luka_skywalker_77 Wrote: What makes what Kerr said so self-serving, is that he's attempting to draw an equivalence between the US and China, using guns and slavery--and in both cases he probably has no idea what he's talking about having heard him speak on this several times. He's protecting is money pooch because China is a massive part of the NBA and it's products, NIKE, the Bay Area etc., which is why he's claiming ignorance in the face of questioning. He's not commenting because he KNOWS the repercussions. He can say whatever he wants about us, but he HAS to hold his tongue when it comes to China which is why all of these guys are running the same lines ...
He's had NO issues making poignant statements about the US in many regards, so it's only fair that those same reporters question him about any of this.
Fact is, he's wrong for drawing an equivalence between the US and China and it's stupid to argue that legitimately. Two, he's protecting his own ass, team and league by playing ignorance. Three, it's his right to do any of the aforementioned, just as it's my right to call him a lying, condescending sack of sht which is emblematic of those harboring left of the political spectrum. He's just another in the like of 'woke' people feigning intelligence, claiming to fight for the people while denigrating not only themselves but their country of citizenship as well. It's practically par for the course so it's not surprising.
The other thing, is that the US has spoken up many times about what's going on in China, however, governments must maintain some level of decorum with other nations they do not morally see eye to eye with. You can play isolationist and remove yourself from the global network of allies, or you can maintain relationships while attempting to promote influence and change in those same areas.
**if you think the US hasn't said a LOT about that's going on in China, please type: into your browser window and do some research on it.
When you run everything through the lens of "Us vs Them U.S. politics" then this ^ is what you get.
No doubt Kerr's involvement in the NBA and the NBA's relationship to China has something to do with his "No Comment". Glad you made this point so that I could agree with something in this thread.
But you still can't show, with Kerr's words, how he compared China's battle with Hong Kong protesters with U.S. domestic issues. Please try. Proximity of subjects (reporter asks about Hong Kong, Kerr talks U.S. issues) doesn't equal comparison. He made no comparison. As I've already said, his own words say something like "you ask me about another country, I'll just stick to talking about my own." That's not a comparison, it's a deflection or redirection.
Also, hakeemfan didn't say that the U.S. has never commented about China. That would be silly. Based on the context of his statements I think he said he hadn't seen them say anything backing the Hong Kong protesters. Maybe google has shown you differently. I've shared links to some of my own meager research in this thread. Feel free to share your own, if you like, rather than offering the lame rebuttal of "GOOGLE IT".
Fact is, while I agree with your opinion that Kerr's job with the NBA probably influenced his "no comment" (though I'm not sure why that's so grievous), I have to say you haven't presented much in the way of "facts" in your post. It's mostly just another Us vs Them diatribe.
As he stated:
[...] “Nor has our record of human rights abuses come up, either,” Kerr continued as he took a hostile tone toward the United States. “Things that our country needs to look at and resolve. That hasn’t come up either. None of us are perfect. We all have different issues we have to get to. … But people in China didn’t ask me about, you know, people owning AR-15s and mowing each other down in a mall. I wasn’t asked that question.”
“We can play this game all we want and go all over the map. There’s this issue and that issue. The world is a complex place and there’s more gray than black and white,” Kerr concluded. “I realize that what’s popular these days is making it black and white. You’re either good or you’re evil. It’s convenient to do things that way, but not realistic.” [...]
The above which echoes the sentiments of many basketball players when asked about this issue, which runs in line with how fans are kicked/escorted out of stadiums for bringing signage with them to the games. You can mark the latter off as being against stadium policy, but we know better. Now if someone DID ask him about the US, i'm more than positive he would have had some choice words to provide--without hesitation and he has done so on many occasions, despite being uneducated in those topics as well. But now we have a situation that is clearly black and white, and he has no comment? Please explain to me what he needs to educate himself on? And explain to me why EVERY OTHER player and team, echoes the same sentiment. It's almost as if they went to the same meetings ...
Aside from that, american citizens, pundits from liberal and conservative outlets have all condemned his actions--and roundly so. This is not so much a left or right issue, but a matter of hypocrisy, especially when your livelihood is on the line and now LBJ is repeating the same responses--the same guy that has a response to EVERYTHING--now has no response to a very simple issue. He made a US matter very black and white and so have many players--because it's socially and politically expedient to do so and there's very little repercussion financially. They care about Chinese money, not the people.
In terms of China:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/thousands-rally-in-hong-kong-for-u-s-bill-supporting-citys-special-status-11571074463
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomac...sure-white
I think we agree on most of it, but where it pisses off my sports me, is this irritating, mind numbing hypocrisy--as if we don't exactly why they are doing this. It's that they think people are stupid and we can't see through the bs.