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Porzingis Postup Debate - Rick Carlisle vs TNT
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(12-28-2019, 12:31 AM)BolsDamols Wrote: I feel that basketball at the end of the day is still a game of mismatches. And mismatches need to be exploited, thats how you gain an advantage.
If KP vs a smaller defender in the post is not a mismatch given how KP is not a good post player (yet), regardless of his 7'3 frame, then there is nothing to be exploited, and it becomes a bad play.
With Dirk, is a mismatch every time - I remember the old Rockets games, they would switch the pick and roll with Jeremy Lin guarding Dirk, its a basket every time down the floor.
Its also a go to basket for the Mavs at the end of games.
With KP, until he becomes money at it, the team is right to move away from it now.
Having said that, KP is still just only 24, there's plenty of time to make it one of the better weapons in his arsenal, and the team will be better for it once it happens.

(12-28-2019, 07:40 AM)burekemde Wrote:
(12-28-2019, 06:08 AM)bartlettbear Wrote:
(12-28-2019, 12:31 AM)BolsDamols Wrote: I feel that basketball at the end of the day is still a game of mismatches. And mismatches need to be exploited, thats how you gain an advantage.
If KP vs a smaller defender in the post is not a mismatch given how KP is not a good post player (yet), regardless of his 7'3 frame, then there is nothing to be exploited, and it becomes a bad play.
With Dirk, is a mismatch every time - I remember the old Rockets games, they would switch the pick and roll with Jeremy Lin guarding Dirk, its a basket every time down the floor.
Its also a go to basket for the Mavs at the end of games.
With KP, until he becomes money at it, the team is right to move away from it now.
Having said that, KP is still just only 24, there's plenty of time to make it one of the better weapons in his arsenal, and the team will be better for it once it happens.


Bingo a game of mismatch,  Luka is a mismatch in the post against anyone, at the end of games Mavs should exploit that.

I agree with this. The players that are effective in the post should be used. Luka is very effective there, yet rarely used in this role so far. I am pretty sure come playoff time, once defenses are better defending pick and roll and other designed plays, we willl see Luka in the post far more. This is the play that is impossible to defend, especially if the player posting knows how to pass it against double teams, and Luka sure does. Its hard to make any defensive schemes against this.

Given how effective Luka has been in the post, it is very surprising to see RC refusing to use this weapon more often. To me it speaks that this is "saved for the playoffs".

Just imagine having THJ/KP/DFS space the floor while Luka is posting up. Any of the defenders covering those cant double Luka, then he will find them open. Finally, Powell inside with his roll ability, his defender cant also come to double Luka. Its a nightmare play for any defense. Maybe only Kawhi/Clippers would stand a chance and even thats a question. Its a go to play in playoffs in case all the designed plays not work as effectively as they do now.

(12-28-2019, 04:26 PM)burekemde Wrote: In this thread it has been also debated what to do when in a big lead, although the topic falls out from the KP post up game. What is needed is some rather safe plays that ensure we dont come with empty posessions. I see some of those:

1) Luka post up.

2) THJ coming off a screen, pass for him to catch and shoot (especially a mid range, long 2, he has been doing these very effectively), this can be designed in so many ways.

3) JJ, screen and allow him to penetrate the paint and make a floater, again many ways can be designed, but we have not seen RC use this weapon on design.

Call these 3 plays at the end and there won't be any blown away big leads.

Lots of excellent posts and points made here.  I recall back in the day  Wink when basketball analysis was mostly weak sauce in Dallas as far as analyzing the game.   Strictly football and Cowboys time.   
It's different now, Mavs and Dirk and the championship I think have a lot to do with that. 

In terms of holding leads better this is all relevant to at least not getting into the record books so much for blowing big leads in record time. 
As someone said well earlier, efficient offense is part of the ability to defend well, its not disconnected. 

Great point about posting up depending a lot on the player offering a mismatch or not.  KP being not good at it is not so much a mismatch while guys like Dirk against a smaller guy was and Luka against anyone it seems may qualify as a mismatch in the post. 

I've said before, the language used by the TNTs creates some confusion because some points were really asking for KP to score inside, in the paint, close to the basket no matter how it was done, rim running, lobbing, driving, posting up, just get it inside Mr. Unicorn, especially when you have a mismatch. 
On the other some of the talk on TNT specified 'Posting up' rather than simply scoring close to rim, paint scoring.  
That's a different discussion and appears to be more specifically what Coach Carlisle's ranting was responding to. 

Alright, Mavs warmed up nicely on the Golden State Wimpys, bring on them Lakers and their Paint scoring machines, AD, Lebron not to mention guys at the 5 like Dwight Howard and former Mav/Warrior Javale McGee.   
Not really worried about the post though, stay home on Danny Green and Kyle Kuzma make em score inside.
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