12-21-2019, 02:16 PM
(12-21-2019, 11:21 AM)vfromlmf Wrote:(12-21-2019, 10:50 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: If you want to make the case that DFS might be the better player in 3 years I agree. Right now or in some crazy reversed history it´s not the case.
Can't take price out of the equation simply because DoDo's production + his contract is a key enabling factor that supports the Mavs depth, which is why the Mavs are winning.
DoDo @ $4 million
RoCo @ $11.3 million
RoCo may be the better player but is he really almost 3x better? No.
I'd much rather have DoDo and Curry for the same price as one RoCo, simply because DoDo is giving the Mavs 95% of RoCo's peak production (and RoCo is having an off year) plus Curry is starting to look like the next JJ Reddick.
Again, not saying RoCo isn't a great role player. I'd love to have him. But DoDo is a great role player too. Let's not lose sight of that and dismiss him as some hustle guy who should be coming off the bench. In fact, I'd love to have all three role players.
(12-21-2019, 10:50 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Except for the fact that DFS has never averaged more than 1 steals or 0.5 blocks.
I've always thought steals were a bit of a system stat. Top steals guys in the NBA tend to gamble. That said I do like steals as a measure of athleticism in college. And obviously, some NBA players have elite hands on-ball, or elite anticipation. Some guys are sneaky surprise guys, like Wright. I haven't watched enough RoCo to know how he gets his numbers. DFS had two steals last night but he seems to be a guy who doesn't gamble and may not have elite steals traits. He sticks to the game plan and gains extra possessions on the offensive glass, where he is elite.
I think a lot of people have a wrong idea of RoCos abilities. He was the best defensive SF in the last few years but not because he is an alltime great onball defender. He is good but not among the best in the league. The thing that made him special was the help defense and switching ability. When it comes to versatility and defensive IQ he was second only to Draymond in the last few years.
Prior to his injury he was one of those rare players that could anchor a defense without being a bigman. Only other comparable players in the current league are Draymond and Smart. He was incredible in Philly and just as good or even better in the 22 game sample size with the Wolves last year. Prior to his arrival they had a bottom 10 defense (with Butler on the roster). During those 22 games they had a top 5 defense.
It is obviously not a given but if he ever returns to that level he is worth a lot more than his 11.3 mio contract. That player was at least 3x better than current DFS.
Judging their current level I still think that he is better but if he never gets back to his former self I tend to agree with your assesment.
I also don´t think that DFS is a bad player. When I call him a hustle player it is more about his skill set. He is no ballhandler, not a great shooter and at best slightly above average on defense. In the modern NBA that should disqualify him from being a good role player but DFS finds a way to make an impact. He is a really good offensive rebounder and a great cutter. In both cases it is his timing that makes him special. Catching bigman off guard on a putback or suprising his defender on a sneaky backdoor cut. Dodo finds a way to get easy points in the paint.