11-09-2021, 02:07 PM
(11-09-2021, 12:30 PM)Kammrath Wrote: I could be wrong, but I would bet a lot of money that Kidd thinks that +/- lineup data is in fact reliable and gives useful information that he takes into account as a coach. I cannot imagine any modern coach refusing to look at that data or thinking it doesn't have something to offer. Again, I bet Kidd was protecting his players and also pushing back against knee-jerk interpretations of such numbers.
Mavsluvr's summary says Kidd said "he doesn’t look at stat sheets on the bench". I don't know what the actual quote was, but just based on that summary, Kidd didn't completely dismiss +/- or say he never looked at it. He said he doesn't look at it 'in-game' which is a good thing, and I expect was true of Carlisle as well. Small sample-size is the bane of any statistic and just looking at the last 12 minutes of +/- would be the very definition of a tiny sample size creating an extremely noisy (and useless) stat. +/- only becomes truly useful when you are looking at it across multiple games--something the coaching staff probably does during prep sessions well away from the actual games.