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(08-07-2021, 01:30 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: What I was trying to say is there is the possibility of overlap depending on improvement, declining and possible fit in whatever system Kidd brings to this group. Kidd talked the same defense game that RC did for years, if Kidd is more serious about that and THJ starts out the season making big mistakes on defense, does Kidd correct by starting guys who have the better defensive acumen. 


I think of it as 2 of the 3 in DFS, THJ and RB with the odd man out playing a big role off the bench. Could be all 3 starting and Kleber shows the better defensive ability so he (edit: THJ) loses the start to him. I mainly think of it as “we’ll see when we see”. I agree that the starting spot is THJ’s to lose to start the season. Will he keep it is the question.

Certainly, there is likely to be some interchange as far as who gets what minutes on any given night. 

Please do not take the following remarks as "aimed" at you, IGT. They're not addressed specifically to anybody in particular.

I just get a puzzling sense that some fans view (for example) all those guys as pretty much the same player, with THJ somewhat worse on defense. When they're so not. And even more puzzling, the idea that he is inherently a eighth to tenth man type who is only on the roster because the incompetent front office just can't find anybody else. And when they do, he'll certainly drop back to his rightful position at the end of the pine. 

I'm really not especially trying to be an apologist for THJ, I just don't get it. 

The only way I see THJ starting from the bench (circumstances being as they are) is if he is in a true sixth man role. Not just the first person off the bench. A guy who plays starter minutes regularly, and is on the floor at the end of the game. A JET role, essentially. 

It just seems very clear that he is going to play heavy minutes regularly, and I'm not seeing the point of view that there is even a debate about that. The Mavs aren't paying him $74M and calling him part of their core to play him 15 minutes per night. We may like it, or we may not, but he's going to be the third option unless they get someone better, because no one further down the chain can do what he does, and it's not even close. They're counting on him for offensive production, and if he makes a few defensive mistakes, they're going to tolerate it. They're just not going to take him out for a defensive error and put Josh Green or the like in his place for the rest of the game. And they shouldn't. 

They may tinker with lineups on any given night, and there may be times he just doesn't have it, but I'm not sure why there is a persistent question about whether he is going to generally start or play bench minutes, as if that were really some kind of live issue. The guy has his faults, but he's a starting-quality player. 

Re-reading the above, maybe I should just calm down and let people discuss what they want. I'm just trying to make sense of it, and possibly it just doesn't, or maybe I am just wrong and somehow not seeing the light. I hope I have not said anything that offended you, IGT. 

Carry on, bro.
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Mavs rotation - by omahen - 08-06-2021, 04:56 PM
RE: Mavs rotation - by DallasBasketball - 08-06-2021, 07:27 PM
RE: Mavs rotation - by Razzmatazz_Hopskidillydoo - 08-06-2021, 08:17 PM
RE: Mavs rotation - by ItsGoTime - 08-06-2021, 08:35 PM
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RE: Mavs rotation - by KillerLeft - 08-06-2021, 09:54 PM
RE: Mavs rotation - by soog - 08-06-2021, 10:46 PM
RE: Mavs rotation - by ItsGoTime - 08-06-2021, 10:03 PM
RE: Mavs rotation - by Kammrath - 08-06-2021, 10:08 PM
RE: Mavs rotation - by sterlingmallory - 08-06-2021, 10:28 PM
RE: Mavs rotation - by KillerLeft - 08-06-2021, 10:19 PM
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RE: Mavs rotation - by KillerLeft - 08-06-2021, 10:27 PM
RE: Mavs rotation - by KillerLeft - 08-06-2021, 10:30 PM
RE: Mavs rotation - by KillerLeft - 08-06-2021, 10:36 PM
RE: Mavs rotation - by sterlingmallory - 08-06-2021, 10:52 PM
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RE: Mavs rotation - by KillerLeft - 08-06-2021, 10:50 PM
RE: Mavs rotation - by soog - 08-07-2021, 06:19 AM
RE: Mavs rotation - by Kammrath - 08-06-2021, 10:57 PM
RE: Mavs rotation - by KillerLeft - 08-06-2021, 10:59 PM
RE: Mavs rotation - by ItsGoTime - 08-06-2021, 11:23 PM
RE: Mavs rotation - by mavsluvr - 08-07-2021, 07:33 AM
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RE: Mavs rotation - by ItsGoTime - 08-07-2021, 03:30 PM
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RE: Mavs rotation - by mavsluvr - 08-09-2021, 01:00 PM
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RE: Mavs rotation - by ItsGoTime - 08-09-2021, 12:41 PM
RE: Mavs rotation - by KillerLeft - 08-09-2021, 12:47 PM
RE: Mavs rotation - by DallasBasketball - 08-09-2021, 01:08 PM
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RE: Mavs rotation - by ItsGoTime - 08-09-2021, 01:18 PM
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RE: Mavs rotation - by omahen - 08-09-2021, 06:29 PM
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RE: Mavs rotation - by ItsGoTime - 08-16-2021, 12:23 PM
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RE: Mavs rotation - by embellisher - 09-24-2021, 08:04 AM
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RE: Mavs rotation - by ItsGoTime - 12-06-2021, 01:22 PM

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