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(02-07-2021, 01:59 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: What is that supposed to mean?
I have to say I find your arrogance toward other franchises amusing and confusing at the same time. You talk so much sh*t about teams like the Knicks or Kings or Bulls....and then I look at the standings and they are all better than us without having a (n alleged) top 10 player. So if their (all new btw) front offices are a joke, what are we?
The Knicks are starting a 22 year old center, a 20 year old SF. The average age of their starting five is 24.6 years. Ours is 25.8 and we are having leadership meltdowns. Their 2021 draft picks are actually playing significant minutes. Their cap is clean. They have some additional picks, courtesy of our Dallas Mavericks. I´m not sure what´s so funny about them.
Easy man, easy... While it might not be all doom and gloom after first 25 games for Mavs it is also very possible that Knicks results are a bit better than what can be realistically expected on a long term.
Knicks are not contending. None of their young players is showing real star potential. So we can assume the coach is getting near max from them. Based on this it makes zero sense to throw away draft assets for a mediocre vet rental. And it may happen, this vet rental will take minutes from Quickley, negating some of the things they have done very well this season.
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(02-07-2021, 02:40 PM)omahen Wrote: Easy man, easy... While it might not be all doom and gloom after first 25 games for Mavs it is also very possible that Knicks results are a bit better than what can be realistically expected on a long term.
Knicks are not contending. None of their young players is showing real star potential. So we can assume the coach is getting near max from them. Based on this it makes zero sense to throw away draft assets for a mediocre vet rental. And it may happen, this vet rental will take minutes from Quickley, negating some of the things they have done very well this season.
Randle is one year older than Porzingis. Does that mean Porzingis is not a young player either?
23/11/6 with 40% 3pt percentage as a #1 option looks like star potential to me. Knicks have tried the tanking strategy. Now they are trying to portray competency to attract FAs.
Furthermore draft compensation is allegedly a 2nd round pick, so hardly an earth-shattering loss.
RJ Barrett has shown to be streaky, but if he can find some consistency he can become a real good player.
I think my biggest problem is that so many Mavs fans (myself included) always make these trades like "Team x should trade us this and that, look at their team...."
I do and that other team has a better record than us.
I agree that thanks to Luka we have a different trajectory/projection, but I´d also have to ask myself: why would I sign with this franchise?
For example Josh Green has shown enough glimpses and the other options have been pathetic enough that he should be playing 20 MPG for the rest of the season, because if he shows the necessary progress toward or even reaches the level of a plus defender it changes our whole roster building process going forward. Maybe we can let Richardson walk and try sign a secondary play-maker for biggish money, because Green will give us the defensive cover on a rookie contract for the next 3-4 years.
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(02-07-2021, 02:40 PM)omahen Wrote: You talk so much sh*t about teams like the Knicks or Kings or Bulls....
Knicks under Dolan are a mess. Vlade was perhaps worst GM ever, imho. If that makes me arrogant I am fine with that. Making playoffs once every 10 years doesn't change my opinion. I am pretty sure I haven't said anything about Bulls because I have big respect for Karnisovas. So far, he didn't make any mistakes.
On the other hand, I have been very vocal about Mavs 2019 offseason and also 2020 TDL. 2020 offseason was good imho.
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(02-07-2021, 02:57 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Josh Green has shown enough glimpses and the other options have been pathetic enough that he should be playing 20 MPG for the rest of the season, because if he shows the necessary progress toward or even reaches the level of a plus defender it changes our whole roster building process going forward. Maybe we can let Richardson walk and try sign a secondary play-maker for biggish money, because Green will give us the defensive cover on a rookie contract for the next 3-4 years.
YES. JG not getting playing time right now is inexcusable. I know RC is trying to break the terrible slide, but Green is not to blame and has been more help than hurt. RC MUST develop JG. MUST.
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Knicks trying to make the playoffs. They're the 7 seed right now.
Long term future still looks bleak but let them enjoy a playoff chase.
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Looks Denis will come to Dallas on Feb 17th ... with Pistons to play Mavs. Hope he'll play.
https://www.si.com/nba/mavericks/news/nb...th-pistons
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02-07-2021, 07:14 PM
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Josh Green is a top 5 Mavs player...
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I'm just not sure that I understand why the narrative of "us missing 41 rotational player games is immaterial" came to be acceptable around here. It's nuts.
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(02-07-2021, 07:19 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: I'm just not sure that I understand why the narrative of "us missing 41 rotational player games is immaterial" came to be acceptable around here.
A few comments on where I think folks are coming from:
1) The rotation players of the Mavs that missed games are not "irreplaceable" types of players. Luka is arguably the only irreplaceable player on the roster (maybe KP too, but he is not playing well).
2) Good teams lose rotational players and it is "next man up."
3) GSW were down all sorts of rotational players and an irreplaceable player in Klay and totally embarrassed the full complement of Mavs.
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omahen Wrote:I am not sure if Kings (11th place before the game) winning against Nuggets (4th) is a good or bad thing for Mavs goals this season
They beat the Nuggets 3 straight times, and beat the Clippers today for their 4th straight win. Must be doing something right.....
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The biggest domino that could fall and may impact the title race: Kyle Lowry. There is a portion of Raptors personnel, league sources said, that believes the franchise should bid its beloved All-Star farewell and begin Toronto's next chapter in earnest.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2930...-a-divorce
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Score one for those who believe that even great players can have bad moments.
https://twitter.com/TheCrossover/status/...40101?s=20
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Nets are miserable compared to their expectations. I wonder how long till Nash is fired.
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East teams not helping us tonight. Let's hope Chicago pulls it off against Pels
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We now have the 12th-worst record in the league, which feels good in comparison to where we were.
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