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(Yesterday, 02:47 PM)Smitty Wrote: To be fair, it's preseason rankings and Sam Vecenie did say 4-17 were in the same tier 
But the reason for posting it, was to agree with Mavs2021's point that "Large part of the draft is confirmation bias and the scouts will look for players to confirm their initial assessments and those had Brown and Ament as the next tier." Not that every scout has the same ranking, just that those two in particular were up there!
I don't think this is correct though, and if anything draft usually shows recency bias.
Plenty of highly rated prospects ended up being picked very late after bad college season
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(Yesterday, 05:33 PM)khaled1987 Wrote: Plenty of highly rated prospects ended up being picked very late after bad college season
Sure, but we’re not talking about prospects having a bad college season.
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(Yesterday, 11:23 AM)khaled1987 Wrote: Peterson might be avoiding being consensus first overall pick in order to land where he wants to be.
But most likely he has an actual health/injury issue that he isn't honest about
My theory is this could be 2-fold.
Peterson might have an injury that isn't necessarily bad enough to keep him out of games, but is concerning enough to him to take a cautious approach in season games.
So...
1. He might be preserving/managing himself to make sure he is a number 1 pick.
2. He's preserving/managing himself for the big tournament to make sure he's at his best for his team, and to make sure he is the number 1 pick.
He seems to be a showman like Luka and Kobe, so he is coasting along in regular games playing just enough to help his team win and waiting to put his A-game on a big stage in the big tournament.
If I had his talent, I might be load-balancing myself too (especially if I had a somewhat nagging injury no matter how minor it might be) because of the enormous amount I would value myself. The risk of getting hurt during college would be enormous compared to the average college player.
Peterson came into Kansas considered as a great character and smart kid. Great personality and competitive as hell.
I think he just realizes he is a valuable commodity and is taking a smart approach to managing his long-term future.
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(Yesterday, 10:26 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: https://x.com/sam_vecenie/status/2025048...55538?s=61
That is exactly how I feel.
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(11 hours ago)DL2RimRocker Wrote: My theory is this could be 2-fold.
Peterson might have an injury that isn't necessarily bad enough to keep him out of games, but is concerning enough to him to take a cautious approach in season games.
So...
1. He might be preserving/managing himself to make sure he is a number 1 pick.
2. He's preserving/managing himself for the big tournament to make sure he's at his best for his team, and to make sure he is the number 1 pick.
He seems to be a showman like Luka and Kobe, so he is coasting along in regular games playing just enough to help his team win and waiting to put his A-game on a big stage in the big tournament.
If I had his talent, I might be load-balancing myself too (especially if I had a somewhat nagging injury no matter how minor it might be) because of the enormous amount I would value myself. The risk of getting hurt during college would be enormous compared to the average college player.
Peterson came into Kansas considered as a great character and smart kid. Great personality and competitive as hell.
I think he just realizes he is a valuable commodity and is taking a smart approach to managing his long-term future.
I think everyone would understand that he is injured and trying to play through the injury. You can make that be a team guy thing. I think a lot of frustration and confusion is the lack of communication from his team. I think you heard it from the Kansas coach too. They are also confused. I just think the messaging has been really strange.
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The final 4 in February…?
#4 Arizona @ #2 Houston on ESPN at 2:00
Burries & Peat vs Flemings & Cenac Jr.
#1 Michigan @ #3 Duke on ESPN at 5:30
Yaxel, Mara, & Morez Johnson vs Boozer, Ngongba, & Isaiah Evans
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Of all the players that might fall to the Mavs, Keaton Wagler is the most interesting. But I think less is known about him than any player above him.
He wasn't recruited by large colleges - Illinois being the biggest. None of the accolades or tournaments were part of his high school exposure. No McDonalds All-American, No Gatorade Tournaments, or FIBA Championships. He was mostly absent from 1st round drafts in September and October. So the bulk of what we know about Wagler is from the few games he's played at Illinois.
He will be heavily scrutinized during NBA workouts. If he's there when the Mavs pick, and Brown is still available... who do you pick?
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(1 hour ago)Winter Wrote: Of all the players that might fall to the Mavs, Keaton Wagler is the most interesting. But I think less is known about him than any player above him.
He wasn't recruited by large colleges - Illinois being the biggest. None of the accolades or tournaments were part of his high school exposure. No McDonalds All-American, No Gatorade Tournaments, or FIBA Championships. He was mostly absent from 1st round drafts in September and October. So the bulk of what we know about Wagler is from the few games he's played at Illinois.
He will be heavily scrutinized during NBA workouts. If he's there when the Mavs pick, and Brown is still available... who do you pick?
I slightly lean towards Brown if he's able to sustain his recent improvement. He's a more explosive athlete and a better playmaker. I think his offensive ceiling is higher, although he's probably got more bust potential. It's a tough call.
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(5 hours ago)Smitty Wrote: The final 4 in February…?
#4 Arizona @ #2 Houston on ESPN at 2:00
Burries & Peat vs Flemings & Cenac Jr.
#1 Michigan @ #3 Duke on ESPN at 5:30
Yaxel, Mara, & Morez Johnson vs Boozer, Ngongba, & Isaiah Evans
Peat is injured and out indefinitely
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