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[mvossman]

Just a normal rich guy that likes basketball instead of one of these robot billionaires.  Something romantic about it.

Cuban would be far from my first choice, but he would be a lot higher than the current owners.  I think there is a real chance he just hires Linsey and steps back a bit too (but that might be wishful thinking).

[Winter]

Cuban would be far from my first choice, but he would be a lot higher than the current owners.  I think there is a real chance he just hires Linsey and steps back a bit too (but that might be wishful thinking).

I think that second sentence sounds right to me. I'm not sure it's Lindsey, but I'm guessing he changes (lessens) his role.

I'm assuming real-estate is still an issue and he wants to bring aboard an investment group that can handle that. Maybe there's even some hand-off of players from Dumont to Cuban. 

I'm still not reading anything specific on the rumor-mill. Maybe the media is gathering info. Since it was Stein, I'll assume it's vetted.

[Mavs2021]

Cuban would be far from my first choice, but he would be a lot higher than the current owners.  I think there is a real chance he just hires Linsey and steps back a bit too (but that might be wishful thinking).

On the contrary, I think he´d stay a larger minority owner, maybe 35/65, and makes sure he gets control over basketball operations in writting this time. 

We go back to his favourite roster building strategy: retirement home mode.  


Though I do agree with the overall logic.

Gambling declined. Expansion team in their hometown.  Not hiring GM and cleaning the cap. The last two can easily interpreted as franchise selling moves rather than what we wanted to believe.

That would also explain the weird Tyus Jones trade. Cuban is back in charge and has already activated retirement home mode.

[mvossman]

On the contrary, I think he´d stay a larger minority owner, maybe 35/65, and makes sure he gets control over basketball operations in writting this time. 

We go back to his favourite roster building strategy: retirement home mode.  


Though I do agree with the overall logic.

Gambling declined. Expansion team in their hometown.  Not hiring GM and cleaning the cap. The last two can easily interpreted as franchise selling moves rather than what we wanted to believe.

That would also explain the weird Tyus Jones trade. Cuban is back in charge and has already activated retirement home mode.

When Cuban was still running the show and hired Linsey to help out the Mavs added:

Lively
Omax
DJJ
Exum
Williams
PJ
Gafford
Grimes

All of those guys were in their early to mid 20s.  There was a clear shift towards youth and it obviously wasn't Nico driven (who traded DJJ/Luka/Grimes for Klay/AD/Martin once he took over).

[Mavs2021]

When Cuban was still running the show and hired Linsey to help out the Mavs added:

Lively
Omax
DJJ
Exum
Williams
PJ
Gafford
Grimes

All of those guys were in their early to mid 20s.  There was a clear shift towards youth and it obviously wasn't Nico driven (who traded DJJ/Luka/Grimes for Klay/AD/Martin once he took over).

Fair point.

[Chicagojk]

Well that is surprising.

[Tyler]

I'm assuming real-estate is still an issue and he wants to bring aboard an investment group that can handle that. 

That would explain Perot's involvement. He was owner when they built the AAC.

[F Gump]

That would explain Perot's involvement. He was owner when they built the AAC.

Perot is involved somehow? That doesn't seem right.

The story I'm seeing is that an interested group formed first, then solicited Cuban's help (or maybe even want him as credibility), rather than the other way around.

[windjc]

The Adelson hate on here reeks of TDS.

If you want Cuban more active you are a moron. Cuban is the reason for every complaint you have about the Mavs.

He is a dodo bird.

[cow]

Cuban would be far from my first choice, but he would be a lot higher than the current owners.  I think there is a real chance he just hires Linsey and steps back a bit too (but that might be wishful thinking).

I kind of see the opposite happening.  Pick one of "you don't know what you have until it's gone" or "absence makes the heart grow fonder" and add on the assuredness he'll have that the Luka situation would have never happened if he were still the owner.  And while that last part might be true, he had a lot to do with wasting the twilight of Dirk's prime with plan powder in that he completely misread how the new CBA would effect teams, was the owner who feigned ignorance of all the sexual misconduct in the Mavs business operations that made Dirk extend his career longer than it needed to, never took the draft seriously (what's Shane Larkin up to these days?), put us in asset debt after drafting Luka/Brunson with the KP trade, botched the handling of Brunson, hired Nico in the first place, and sold the team to a casino outfit.  

That's a long winded way of saying that he might not be last on my list of names to dig us out of this hole, but he's not that far off either.

[JamesConway912]

https://x.com/kelly_k_9/status/2020528151315484919?s=46&t=-bN4oD2OLU_Ue80HIM_CZQ

I barely watched any Mavs games this season but the first Flagg play in that clip is 1000000% Luka-esque. Not sure which game it was but Luka had a similar possession once, even got the ball tipped back over halfcourt after an almost-TO and just responed with a wild FU three from the logo with the clock running out. Might have been Sacramento a few years ago. Plays like that must be so demoralizing and just show how skilled these two are. 

IF the current ownership gets pushed out the door a Luka return suddenly does look a lot less outlandish. 

Hed still be in his prime by then with Flagg probably also being a perennial All NBA guy by then. You‘d have to legitimate MVP candidates on one squad.

Man what a thought…

[RoyTarpleysGhost]

No interest in having Luka back

[JamesConway912]

The Adelson hate on here reeks of TDS.

If you want Cuban more active you are a moron. Cuban is the reason for every complaint you have about the Mavs.

He is a dodo bird.

Cuban has been a bad owner pretty much the second after they won the championship. But nothing he did gets close to the organizational malpractice Dumont has allowed to happen under his reign. The idea that he got suckered into the trade by Nico without there being any type of internal discussion with opposing voices was and is insane.

Marc Stein was on the DLLS pod a while ago, when he was asked jokingly if he would have tried to leak the trade talks in order to sabotage the deal he answered „abso-fricking-lutely“. But they just pulled this dumbass move off and kept everyone in the dark until it was too late.

For Dumont to agree to that that tells you all you need to know about how insanely out of touch and naive that guy is.

[BoredAssistant]

If Perot Jr. is in fact a potential investor, here is some background:
"Founder and Chairman of Hillwood Communities, Ross Perot Jr. is also Chairman of the Perot Group, which manages family interests that include real estate, oil and gas, and financial investments."state, oil and gas, and financial investments.  Founder and Chairman of Hillwood Communities, Ross Perot, Jr. is also Chairman of The Perot Group, which manages family interests that include real estate, oil and gas, and financial investments. 

[Mavs2021]

The Adelson hate on here reeks of TDS.

If you want Cuban more active you are a moron. Cuban is the reason for every complaint you have about the Mavs.

He is a dodo bird.

I have no idea how Tristan Da Silva smells, but good for you, he is handsome.

[windjc]

I kind of see the opposite happening.  Pick on of "you don't know what you have until it's gone" or "absence makes the heart grow fonder" and add on the assuredness he'll have that the Luka situation would have never happened if he were still the owner.  And while that last part might be true, he had a lot to do with wasting the twilight of Dirk's prime with plan powder in that he completely misread how the new CBA would effect teams, was the owner who feigned ignorance of all the sexual misconduct in the Mavs business operations that made Dirk extend his career longer than it needed to, never took the draft seriously (what's Shane Larkin up to these days?), put us in asset debt after drafting Luka/Brunson with the KP trade, botched the handling of Brunson, hired Nico in the first place, and sold the team to a casino outfit.  

That's a long winded way of saying that he might not be last on my list of names to dig us out of this hole, but he's not that far off either.

I want the current ownership 10000000 times more than the scenario you just outlined which is very very likely if this were to happen. A control freak manchild emboldened to make more motonic decisions. Omg. Worse than the Luka trade by a lot.

[RasheedsBigWhiteSpot]

If Perot Jr. is in fact a potential investor, here is some background:
"Founder and Chairman of Hillwood Communities, Ross Perot Jr. is also Chairman of the Perot Group, which manages family interests that include real estate, oil and gas, and financial investments."state, oil and gas, and financial investments.  Founder and Chairman of Hillwood Communities, Ross Perot, Jr. is also Chairman of The Perot Group, which manages family interests that include real estate, oil and gas, and financial investments. 

For all the love that Cuban got during his first run, Ross Perot, Jr was the Mavs' owner when they drafted Dirk.  So, yeah.

[windjc]

Cuban has been a bad owner pretty much the second after they won the championship. But nothing he did gets close to the organizational malpractice Dumont has allowed to happen under his reign. The idea that he got suckered into the trade by Nico without there being any type of internal discussion with opposing voices was and is insane.

Marc Stein was on the DLLS pod a while ago, when he was asked jokingly if he would have tried to leak the trade talks in order to sabotage the deal he answered „abso-fricking-lutely“. But they just pulled this dumbass move off and kept everyone in the dark until it was too late.

For Dumont to agree to that that tells you all you need to know about how insanely out of touch and naive that guy is.

Yes he was out of touch. But that can 100% be corrected by hiring a good GM. Cuban hired Nico!!!!!!! Cuban is a self proclaimed genius. That can NEVER be corrected. Just like Jerry Jones can never be corrected.

You want an owner who knows nothing about the sport and hires quality leaders more than an owner who who fancies himself smarter than everybody else. By about 1000 times.

[windjc]

Cuban has been a bad owner pretty much the second after they won the championship. But nothing he did gets close to the organizational malpractice Dumont has allowed to happen under his reign. The idea that he got suckered into the trade by Nico without there being any type of internal discussion with opposing voices was and is insane.

Marc Stein was on the DLLS pod a while ago, when he was asked jokingly if he would have tried to leak the trade talks in order to sabotage the deal he answered „abso-fricking-lutely“. But they just pulled this dumbass move off and kept everyone in the dark until it was too late.

For Dumont to agree to that that tells you all you need to know about how insanely out of touch and naive that guy is.

Cuban was never a good owner.

[Mavs2021]

At first I thought Cuban was letting the whole Luka trade play out knowing it will end Nico and get him back in the room, but turns out the whole plan was to get his house back.