MAVS NEWS:

[mvossman]

In the wake of today's trade...honestly, doesn't it kind of feel like we have permission to get more excited about this? I can't quite figure out why, but it feels that way for me.

Prolly because we can focus on building around Flagg instead of talking about how we are going to shed cap or AD next injury.  Prolly doesn't hurt that Flagg has been putting up like 40 points a game lately.

[Smitty]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sgcd7NavuyE

I think Gump and I have been beating this drum all summer/season that Flagg should not have some cap on his ceiling and that Point-Flagg is a real thing. That he’s not just some PF only guy and his rookie numbers so far are eerily similar to LeBron, Luka, KD, etc. There is no box in which Flagg should be placed.

[cow]

In the wake of today's trade...honestly, doesn't it kind of feel like we have permission to get more excited about this? I can't quite figure out why, but it feels that way for me.

More excited?  Sure.  Because of Bill Simmons?  Nah.

[F Gump]

Prolly because we can focus on building around Flagg instead of talking about how we are going to shed cap or AD next injury.  Prolly doesn't hurt that Flagg has been putting up like 40 points a game lately.

It's a good reminder that the goal from here should be about surrounding CF with whatever players make it easier for him to dominate. That being said, having a lineup full of really good talented 2-way players around him, all by itself, would be a huge start. Not sure they even have that yet, unless they get healthy.

[KillerLeft]

I think Gump and I have been beating this drum all summer/season that Flagg should not have some cap on his ceiling and that Point-Flagg is a real thing. That he’s not just some PF only guy and his rookie numbers so far are eerily similar to LeBron, Luka, KD, etc. There is no box in which Flagg should be placed.

On the contrary, I'd sprint as fast as I could to put him into the "PF with more ball-handling skills than his opposing PF" box. That way, I factually KNOW my team has an advantage every single night in the front court. 

Doesn't mean he can't run the offense for a possession here and there, and he probably should. That has never been in question. It was, and always will be stupid to even attempt to play a Flagg/Marshall/PJW/AD/Gafford lineup with a straight face. It's so obvious that this was wrong it's not even worth discussing anymore, but as long as people keep bringing it up, I guess that's what we'll do. 

The argument was NEVER about development. It started during a time when (some) people around here claimed that was a recipe for winning THIS YEAR.

[SleepingHero]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sgcd7NavuyE

It's kind of freaking crazy.

I never for one second allowed myself to believe that Flagg could come in and replicate a rookie season that was even close to as good as Luka's (who statistically was one of the best rookies since Lebron). I was so okay with him being a project on offense at 14-16ppg with elite defense and have some growing pains.

And in 3 months he's averaging prime Kawhi numbers WITH elite defense. 

It's silly to think he can sustain this, but if this is a glimpse of who he can be every night in the following years, I can't help but to think that divine intervention really occurred to save us from ones man delusions.

[KillerLeft]

It's kind of freaking crazy.

I never for one second allowed myself to believe that Flagg could come in and replicate a rookie season that was even close to as good as Luka's (who statistically was one of the best rookies since Lebron). I was so okay with him being a project on offense at 14-16ppg with elite defense and have some growing pains.

And in 3 months he's averaging prime Kawhi numbers WITH elite defense. 

It's silly to think he can sustain this, but if this is a glimpse of who he can be every night in the following years, I can't help but to think that divine intervention really occurred to save us from ones man delusions.

What I think IS sustainable is what should be an obvious fact by now: Flagg has an amazing work ethic and is a psychotic competitor. The two previous Mavs superstars each had one of those things, but at times seemed to be lacking the other. I'm optimistic about his career, armed with both, for sure.

[Mavs2021]

It's kind of freaking crazy.

I never for one second allowed myself to believe that Flagg could come in and replicate a rookie season that was even close to as good as Luka's (who statistically was one of the best rookies since Lebron). I was so okay with him being a project on offense at 14-16ppg with elite defense and have some growing pains.

And in 3 months he's averaging prime Kawhi numbers WITH elite defense. 

It's silly to think he can sustain this, but if this is a glimpse of who he can be every night in the following years, I can't help but to think that divine intervention really occurred to save us from ones man delusions.

One thing to keep in mind is that these opposing teams don´t give a f***. They know the Mavs want to lose games, so it´s almost like a hidden NBA product deal. They let Cooper get his points and they get the WIN. Cooper looking special helps the overall value of the league. IF this was serious business, they´d defend Cooper like he´s Rondo. That being said, when/if Cooper develops a 40% 3pt shot, the league is f***** and that is damn exciting.

[cow]

It's kind of freaking crazy.

I never for one second allowed myself to believe that Flagg could come in and replicate a rookie season that was even close to as good as Luka's (who statistically was one of the best rookies since Lebron). I was so okay with him being a project on offense at 14-16ppg with elite defense and have some growing pains.

And in 3 months he's averaging prime Kawhi numbers WITH elite defense. 

It's silly to think he can sustain this, but if this is a glimpse of who he can be every night in the following years, I can't help but to think that divine intervention really occurred to save us from ones man delusions.

Dirk is my favorite athlete ever so I say this with all due reverence, but after he and Luka, freaking crazy is having a two-way star.

[Chicagojk]

https://x.com/ringer/status/2019147529418621034?s=61

[RoyTarpleysGhost]

In the wake of today's trade...honestly, doesn't it kind of feel like we have permission to get more excited about this? I can't quite figure out why, but it feels that way for me.

Yesterday, I was considering whether I needed a break from the Mavs. They had become a bad habit, instead of a source of entertainment.

Today, I'm looking forward to what's next. (after 2 more months of tanking lol)

[Winter]

Yesterday, I was considering whether I needed a break from the Mavs.  They had become a bad habit, instead of a source of entertainment.

Today, I'm looking forward to what's next.

Getting rid of AD and having money to spend was good for the fanbase. 

Until he was gone, it was basketball purgatory.

[ACMFFL]

One thing to keep in mind is that these opposing teams don´t give a f***. They know the Mavs want to lose games, so it´s almost like a hidden NBA product deal. They let Cooper get his points and they get the WIN. Cooper looking special helps the overall value of the league. IF this was serious business, they´d defend Cooper like he´s Rondo.

All this nonsense condensed in a single post.
Actually Mavs are outscoring opponents in Cooper minutes over the past two months, just saying..

[Mavs2021]

All this nonsense condensed in a single post.
Actually Mavs are outscoring opponents in Cooper minutes over the past two months, just saying..

Maybe you should 

1.) learn how to read and digest information
2.) not cut off the rest of the post, so it suits your agenda better

[OBX Maverick]

It's kind of freaking crazy.

I never for one second allowed myself to believe that Flagg could come in and replicate a rookie season that was even close to as good as Luka's (who statistically was one of the best rookies since Lebron). I was so okay with him being a project on offense at 14-16ppg with elite defense and have some growing pains.

And in 3 months he's averaging prime Kawhi numbers WITH elite defense. 

It's silly to think he can sustain this, but if this is a glimpse of who he can be every night in the following years, I can't help but to think that divine intervention really occurred to save us from ones man delusions.

And I will take it a step further…and i know others didn’t agree with this take last year when I presented it after the lottery….but could you say we’re better off right now in the long term than we were before the trade? We would have never been in the draft lottery if Luka had played out the ‘25 season with us.  Now we have a player who looks like he could be on par with Luka, (maybe not with the offensive flair but certainly a more complete player,) and all the other assets we ultimately gained from the trade. (And no, I’m not saying we got fair value for Luka). Obviously, this team is far from complete right now, but with a good draft, the right FA acquisitions, and potentially a healthy Kyrie, it could be a return to competitive basketball in Dallas next season.

[ACMFFL]

Maybe you should 

1.) learn how to read and digest information
2.) not cut off the rest of the post, so it suits your agen

Agenda, what are you even talking about? I'm used to call a spade a spade..

[Winter]

And I will take it a step further…and i know others didn’t agree with this take last year when I presented it after the lottery….but could you say we’re better off right now in the long term than we were before the trade? We would have never been in the draft lottery if Luka had played out the ‘25 season with us.  Now we have a player who looks like he could be on par with Luka, (maybe not with the offensive flair but certainly a more complete player,) and all the other assets we ultimately gained from the trade. (And no, I’m not saying we got fair value for Luka). Obviously, this team is far from complete right now, but with a good draft, the right FA acquisitions, and potentially a healthy Kyrie, it could be a return to competitive basketball in Dallas next season.

It's interesting.

Analysts have referred to Flagg as an "additive" player in that he can play with almost anyone. He's good in so many areas already. 

Contrast that with Doncic who was a great offensive player but required teammates with very specific skills. The Mavs kept trying to plug the right players in year after year. It wasn't easy.

Theoretically, it should be much easier to mange a good roster with Flagg.

[RGP1981]

It's silly to think he can sustain this, but if this is a glimpse of who he can be every night in the following years, I can't help but to think that divine intervention really occurred to save us from ones man delusions.

Flagg is amazing and I do not begrudge the Mavericks fans anything for getting him. Just wanna point out that I don't believe it was divine intervention that got him to Dallas, hehe. This was collusion at the NBA's leadership level.

Some recent examples:

• #1 pick to the Pelicans after trading AD to the Lakers.
  
• #1 pick to the Mavericks after trading Luka to the Lakers.
  
• #2 pick to the Spurs, so that Wemby vs SGA can be a storyline.
  
• #3 pick to the 76ers, because Philly is an old storied franchise that needs to be kept relevant after Ben Simmons didn't work out, and with Joel Embiid falling off lately, and with them getting themselves into a real pickle by signing Paul George to that contract.
  

There's been too many examples for this to be mere coincidence. To me it is quite obvious that the NBA steps in to grant favors in the draft to teams that they hope will be title contenders and fit their desired story-lines, at the expense of teams like the Jazz. Most teams who don't fit the desired story-line have 1 thing against them, but the Jazz had 2 things against them here: 1) They're a small market and 2) I can't imagine the powers that be in the NBA and sports media would have been pleased with the optics of an American white guy leading the Utah Jazz (of all teams in the NBA) to multiple titles, with the current political landscape being what it is. Which is more a reflection of how they think, than of anything or anyone else.

[JamesConway912]

It's interesting.

Analysts have referred to Flagg as an "additive" player in that he can play with almost anyone. He's good in so many areas already. 

Contrast that with Doncic who was a great offensive player but required teammates with very specific skills. The Mavs kept trying to plug the right players in year after year. It wasn't easy.

Theoretically, it should be much easier to mange a good roster with Flagg.

Disagree on Luka being hard to build around. Brunson, Kyrie, to an extent Dinwiddie. If the „other guy“ is actually capable of making a difference they did so - even alongside Luka.

It‘s not on Luka that KP was a mess while he was here and DSJ turned out to be a bust.

Also: its about results. Whoever wins the most games is right and the Mavs went far with Luka. I have HUGE troubles giving in to the Luka criticism bc big picture wise the Mavs were so spoiled with him being here and now that he is gone the wheels have come off entirely.

Flagg will also see his usage explode over the next years. It just comes with the status as a clear nr 1 guy. Were seeing it right now as well, his usage is up to 24% over the season and it’s probably gonna end up being even more than that as the team gets build more towards his him.

I MUCH rather have Flagg be in control of the game for the majority of plays than a bunch of undrafted guards who are fighting for their NBA careers.

[cow]

It‘s not on Luka that KP was a mess while he was here and DSJ turned out to be a bust.

Luka and KP share some blame for how that pairing worked out, but I mostly put it on the MBT for trying to take a shortcut to being competitive without really understanding what Luka needed around him, made all the worse that KP was injured and extended before they got on the court together.