Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST

[Chicagojk]

Just thinking out loud, I wonder if Dallas called golden state about Kuminga and offered KP? I would think the salary relief is more important but I wonder if that was the play? Probably not but just thinking out loud.

[KillerLeft]

Man, some of this news is depressing. I really, really don’t want Kuminga on the team.

[DanSchwartzgan]

Just thinking out loud, I wonder if Dallas called golden state about Kuminga and offered KP?  I would think the salary relief is more important but I wonder if that was the play?  Probably not but just thinking out loud.

That’s creative.  If money isn’t an issue and you don’t control your picks after this season whey wouldn’t you take a flyer on Kuminga rather than expiring KP?  I figured out a deal that works, but it adds more LT salary to Atlanta which is probably an issue.  I also figured out a version that sends Kennard to GSW instead of KP.  

I wonder if the GS stuff is just Cuban trying to drum up interest from another team to put pressure on Atlanta.  There is something odd about the way all of the Dallas connected guys have so much info on what is going on with a potential AD to Atlanta deal.

[RoyTarpleysGhost]

I wonder if the GS stuff is just Cuban trying to drum up interest from another team to put pressure on Atlanta.  There is something odd about the way all of the Dallas connected guys have so much info on what is going on with a potential AD to Atlanta deal.

I tend to agree with you.

Although teams like Chicago and Detroit were brought up early, there hasn't been much noise outside of Atlanta.

[Mavs2021]

Just thinking out loud, I wonder if Dallas called golden state about Kuminga and offered KP?  I would think the salary relief is more important but I wonder if that was the play?  Probably not but just thinking out loud.

I think that makes a lot of sense. I´d say that is actually a likely trade, if the Hawks/Mavs part goes down. Mavs get a young talent to test drive for six months and the Warriors get much needed C for their dynasty die in dignity phase without dipping into their picks or blwoing up their cap long-term. Not like the combo Horford/Porzingis has not worked before.

[KillerLeft]

I think that makes a lot of sense. I´d say that is actually a likely trade, if the Hawks/Mavs part goes down. Mavs get a young talent to test drive for six months and the Warriors get much needed C for their dynasty die in dignity phase without dipping into their picks or blwoing up their cap long-term. Not like the combo Horford/Porzingis has not worked before.

Oh, dang. I didn't realize Kuminga had a team option next year. That might not be the end of the world, actually. Lots of ways that could play out.

[Dirknows]

I tend to agree with you.

Although teams like Chicago and Detroit were brought up early, there hasn't been much noise outside of Atlanta.

Keep hearing Toronto’s name in the background.

[FireNicoHarrison]

Guys the street clothes market is open as hell... At least 4/5 teams want him plus some in the background.

I told you, let him play some good games and good offers will come. Don't rush. Keep calm.

[soog]

Oh, dang. I didn't realize Kuminga had a team option next year. That might not be the end of the world, actually. Lots of ways that could play out.

I’ve been wondering if there is some Gafford for Kuminga angle that could be worked.

[Kidnova]

What would we be bringing Kuminga in to do? Soak up CF's leftover minutes?

[Dirknows]

Didn't even bother to check if the numbers work, and I don't think Houston wants to give up on Sheppard but saw this on a Hawks site:

Atlanta in: AD, DFS, DLo

Dallas in: ZR, Reed Sheppard, FVV, Luke Kennard

Houston in: Trae Young

[soog]

What would we be bringing Kuminga in to do?  Soak up CF's leftover minutes?

Mavs are the ones who have been rumored to have engaged with GSW about Kuminga, so you’d have to ask them why.

I love Gafford and his contract, but if Mavs are in rebuild mode, he doesn’t fit the timeline.  Kuminga gets them 5 years younger and still has some upside. 

I’m not saying I really want Kuminga, just connecting the dots of the GSW supposed interest in Gafford earlier and the Mavs supposed interest in Kuminga. There was also Kerr’s statement recently about missing Klay and wishing he was there. A Kuminga + Heild for Gafford + Klay can be made to work. 

This would really be more of an asset management/get Klay home move than a needle mover.

[KillerLeft]

What would we be bringing Kuminga in to do?  Soak up CF's leftover minutes?

Given that Flagg, PJW, Naji Marshall and sometimes Thompson play forward, I think this is a very good question, my dude.

[Mavs2021]

Mavs are the ones who have been rumored to have engaged with GSW about Kuminga, so you’d have to ask them why.

I love Gafford and his contract, but if Mavs are in rebuild mode, he doesn’t fit the timeline.  Kuminga gets them 5 years younger and still has some upside. 

I’m not saying I really want Kuminga, just connecting the dots of the GSW supposed interest in Gafford earlier and the Mavs supposed interest in Kuminga. There was also Kerr’s statement recently about missing Klay and wishing he was there. A Kuminga + Heild for Gafford + Klay can be made to work. 

This would really be more of an asset management/get Klay home move than a needle mover.

If you do it for Gafford straight up, you better love Kuminga, the player. Or you think Gafford is finished physically. That contract will look really good for a contender going forward, when he gets healthy. I can easily see the Lakers give up a first for Gafford in the summer.

KP for Kuminga is an absolute no brainer asset move. I still don´t buy the Hawks keeping Young. I think the Mavs want an extra pick for taking on Young, and the Hawks refuse. So now the Hawks are shopping Young to extract value elsewhere. 

It makes no logical sense for Atlanta to trade KP. For one he was the reason their rotations/defense turned to crap and the 2-8 stretch, not Young returning. So if they acquire AD for KP, and AD gets hurt they are immediately finished. With a Twin Towers set-up and Okungwu becoming another stretch big, they actually become dangerous and have some half/half injury insurance, too.

I assume that´s where we are. Mavs want Risacher + two 1st round picks or Risacher + Pelicans pick for taking on Young. Atlanta wants to give up one weaker 1st round pick.

[KillerLeft]

Mavs are the ones who have been rumored to have engaged with GSW about Kuminga, so you’d have to ask them why.

I love Gafford and his contract, but if Mavs are in rebuild mode, he doesn’t fit the timeline.  Kuminga gets them 5 years younger and still has some upside. 

I’m not saying I really want Kuminga, just connecting the dots of the GSW supposed interest in Gafford earlier and the Mavs supposed interest in Kuminga. There was also Kerr’s statement recently about missing Klay and wishing he was there. A Kuminga + Heild for Gafford + Klay can be made to work. 

This would really be more of an asset management/get Klay home move than a needle mover.

Indiana is an option for Gafford, too.

[Mavs2021]

Indiana is an option for Gafford, too.

But that´s not a trade happening before the draft/summer. Both teams are tanking, no need to make it now.

Also look at that Tank Commander Carlisle. Blatantly sinking the Pacers to the bottom of the pile with room to spare. All the dumb decisions in Dallas like  "GO OLD, NEVER DRAFT and NEVER TANK" that most of us attributed to Carlisle were clearly all Cuban directives.

[soog]

If you do it for Gafford straight up, you better love Kuminga, the player. Or you think Gafford is finished physically. That contract will look really good for a contender going forward, when he gets healthy. I can easily see the Lakers give up a first for Gafford in the summer.

KP for Kuminga is an absolute no brainer asset move. I still don´t buy the Hawks keeping Young. I think the Mavs want an extra pick for taking on Young, and the Hawks refuse. So now the Hawks are shopping Young to extract value elsewhere. 

It makes no logical sense for Atlanta to trade KP. For one he was the reason their rotations/defense turned to crap and the 2-8 stretch, not Young returning. So if they acquire AD for KP, and AD gets hurt they are immediately finished. With a Twin Towers set-up and Okungwu becoming another stretch big, they actually become dangerous and have some half/half injury insurance, too.

I assume that´s where we are. Mavs want Risacher + two 1st round picks or Risacher + Pelicans pick for taking on Young. Atlanta wants to give up one weaker 1st round pick.

Interesting. I never thought about the idea of Atl running a 2-towers lineup. I would want multiple FRPs including the NOP pick to take Young back.

[Mavsfan32]

If you do it for Gafford straight up, you better love Kuminga, the player. Or you think Gafford is finished physically. That contract will look really good for a contender going forward, when he gets healthy. I can easily see the Lakers give up a first for Gafford in the summer.

KP for Kuminga is an absolute no brainer asset move. I still don´t buy the Hawks keeping Young. I think the Mavs want an extra pick for taking on Young, and the Hawks refuse. So now the Hawks are shopping Young to extract value elsewhere. 

It makes no logical sense for Atlanta to trade KP. For one he was the reason their rotations/defense turned to crap and the 2-8 stretch, not Young returning. So if they acquire AD for KP, and AD gets hurt they are immediately finished. With a Twin Towers set-up and Okungwu becoming another stretch big, they actually become dangerous and have some half/half injury insurance, too.

I assume that´s where we are. Mavs want Risacher + two 1st round picks or Risacher + Pelicans pick for taking on Young. Atlanta wants to give up one weaker 1st round pick.

Yeah Kuminga isnt worth the contract he wants and isn't a good fit with Flagg. I'd rather keep Gafford until the summer if the offers are weak. 

I see zero shot the hawks trade that pelicans pick and no NBA GM is dealing with the headache of 2 injury prone bigs in AD/KP not to mention both would play C in their rotation. AD would have to play the 5 if he gets traded there, Jalen Johnson exclusively plays the 4 for them. BUt Hawks are not trading Trae, Risacher + premium picks  for AD. Hawks most likely just keep KP and their young guys is my guess.

[Mavsfan32]

Interesting. I never thought about the idea of Atl running a 2-towers lineup. I would want multiple FRPs including the NOP pick to take Young back.

Not realistic at all. Like when people thought the 76ers would trade #3 attached to George to get off his contract. Trae isn't close to that negative value. I mean he has a player option and could leave for nothing already this summer. Hawks are not attaching assets to get off half a year of Trae.

[FireNicoHarrison]

But that´s not a trade happening before the draft/summer. Both teams are tanking, no need to make it now.

Also look at that Tank Commander Carlisle. Blatantly sinking the Pacers to the bottom of the pile with room to spare. All the dumb decisions in Dallas like  "GO OLD, NEVER DRAFT and NEVER TANK" that most of us attributed to Carlisle were clearly all Cuban directives.

Bingo.