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[Winter]

Hawks fans saying their owners are a little impatient and impulsive. I think the owners do not want to miss the play-offs, when they do not control their own pick.

The fans themselves want nothing to do with AD, unless it´s literally for nothing.

I feel certain Atlanta does not want to include any picks. On the other hand, I think our fans probably expect at least two first round picks. That's a wide gap.

Some where in the middle may be a first and a second round pick, but I would think the Mavs would just turn that down. These picks are contingent on the quality of players, how badly Atlanta wants to part with Trae or Porzingas, and maybe taxes, contracts, and assorted issues.

A third team probably changes all this, but it's hard to visualize.

[myconsumerclub]

I prefer to keep AD if this is the return

Id need both of their first round picks with that offering

[Dirknows]

I feel certain Atlanta does not want to include any picks. On the other hand, I think our fans probably expect at least two first round picks. That's a wide gap.

Some where in the middle may be a first and a second round pick, but I would think the Mavs would just turn that down. These picks are contingent on the quality of players, how badly Atlanta wants to part with Trae or Porzingas, and maybe taxes, contracts, and assorted issues.

A third team probably changes all this, but it's hard to visualize.

We are in a way better bargaining position than the Hawks. They have cheap owners who don't want to pay the tax. We have owners who are in the luxury tax for a shit team. If Atlanta wants to upgrade their team, and yes, AD is a significant upgrade over Trae or KP, their picks are their most valuable asset. Taking on salary is less relevant to us than it is to them.

[myconsumerclub]

cool. Then we can trade someone to acquire 2 2nd round picks and send those in exchange for firsts.

[Chicagojk]

I think my line on an AD trade would be Risacher, Newell, and the Cleveland pick with the expiring's and a choice of matching Mavs salaries.   I don't see ATL giving up all that, so I would probably hang on to him.

Him getting hurt and seeing how he is moving is really concerning though.  I mean he got hurt running up the court!!!    The sad part is he would have continued his good play for a few weeks we would probably have some more serious bidders.   Unfortunately he got hurt on Christmas day running up the court and just stops you in your tracks if you are another team.  Even if the injury is not serious.

[FireNicoHarrison]

Street clothes was a top 15 NBA player and the one of the best 2 way player in the league just 10 months ago (i saw a lot of posters here wrote it), now is he an albatros?

I don't think so , even i was not agree with those comments.

Keep calm and wait a good trade, GMs often make stupid moves.

He is not an expires and he can't hurt to much our tanking because he plays 50% of the games.

For sure Dumont from "Dumb and dumber"is NOT the right guy who can make a big trade.

[DanSchwartzgan]

Hawks fans saying their owners are a little impatient and impulsive. I think the owners do not want to miss the play-offs, when they do not control their own pick.

The fans themselves want nothing to do with AD, unless it´s literally for nothing.

It seems to me the packages that Haynes thinks are available are comprised of players their teams don't want.  For Atlanta, it is Trae.  For GS it is Green/Kuminga.  Those teams are basically saying we recognize the risk (and upside) that is AD and we are willing to take that risk for stuff we want to get rid of anyway.

The Mav FO is traditionally quiet and I doubt the interim guys are suddenly negotiating through the media.  That leaves the agent who recognizes Dallas won't extend AD and a trade doesn't happen unless the offers get better.  So it is the agent trying to drum up interest in his guy as a means of getting him to a favorable location.

[Chicagojk]

It seems to me the packages that Haynes thinks are available are comprised of players their teams don't want.  For Atlanta, it is Trae.  For GS it is Green/Kuminga.  Those teams are basically saying we recognize the risk (and upside) that is AD and we are willing to take that risk for stuff we want to get rid of anyway.

The Mav FO is traditionally quiet and I doubt the interim guys are suddenly negotiating through the media.  That leaves the agent who recognizes Dallas won't extend AD and a trade doesn't happen unless the offers get better.  So it is the agent trying to drum up interest in his guy as a means of getting him to a favorable location.

Question, is any team willing to extend AD right now?  I would think that is off the table for anyone interested in an AD trade right?   I feel like the extend or trade talk must have come directly from the agent.   That are not the only two options for the Mavs.   Also probably not great hearing him say he still wants to play PF if you are a trade partner.

[numnuts23]

This is exactly where I'm at...minus the injury issues, he's still a top 20 player in the league.

Yet, some are willing to take on a couple expiring players, a lotto ticket and maybe a mid/late 1st round pick.
The smoke might be there with Atlanta, but that also could be just a ploy to get other teams that might be interested to pick up the pace in the offers.


If that is all that is offered, you hang onto him and see where our draft pick lands in 2026. Then hire a real GM and go to work in the offseason.

[KillerLeft]

Here's more from Mannix/Nichols (really liking them, lately!). 

This is mostly from a Trae Young/ATL angle, but there is some very interesting overlap with the Mavs and AD that starts around 1:20. Honestly, it doesn't seem to me like the Mavs are being tight lipped at all, recently. The Haynes thing from last week seemed very confidently based on Mavs sources, and here, Mannix is presenting things like "the Mavericks have been focused on prying that New Orleans Pelicans pick away from ATL for a while"... He also goes into how little interest they have in Young, and discusses their messaging about Kyrie.

https://youtu.be/I_41bGGxVrw?si=DgsIO7sPd6CUmwJ2

[Chicagojk]

I have no interest in Kuminga playing next to Flagg, but any word of Kuminga and GS it is important to note Kuminga is not the end game.  It is the future GS Warriors picks.  That is what you would be after.   

Getting those picks from Golden State and giving AD to an older roster is what would be appealing.


[Amick] Yet while the Mavericks are known to be pushing for young prospects (and expiring contracts) in talks relating to Davis, Hawks sources pushed back hard on reports that they’d be willing to include 2024 No. 1 pick Zaccharie Risacher.[Amick] The Mavericks initiated contact with the Golden State Warriors about Anthony Davis. Dallas has interest in Jonathan Kuminga, though the Warriors would have to include more to match contracts, such as the contract of Draymond Green, which they are staunchly opposed to.

[mvossman]

Here's more from Mannix/Nichols (really liking them, lately!). 

This is mostly from a Trae Young/ATL angle, but there is some very interesting overlap with the Mavs and AD that starts around 1:20. Honestly, it doesn't seem to me like the Mavs are being tight lipped at all, recently. The Haynes thing from last week seemed very confidently based on Mavs sources, and here, Mannix is presenting things like "the Mavericks have been focused on prying that New Orleans Pelicans pick away from ATL for a while"... He also goes into how little interest they have in Young, and discusses their messaging about Kyrie.

https://youtu.be/I_41bGGxVrw?si=DgsIO7sPd6CUmwJ2

Those assessments sounds about right.  I think in an ideal world they find a third team for Trae.  It might be that Hawks are ready to move on from Trae but are struggling with the optics of the meager return they get for him.  If they make it a three team deal they can effectively say they sent out Trae to get AD.  I'm not married to Risacher.  I would be fine with adding more assets instead.  Newell is an interesting young player with a history with Flagg and much easier contract to stomach.

[KillerLeft]

Those assessments sounds about right.  I think in an ideal world they find a third team for Trae.  It might be that Hawks are ready to move on from Trae but are struggling with the optics of the meager return they get for him.  If they make it a three team deal they can effectively say they sent out Trae to get AD.  I'm not married to Risacher.  I would be fine with adding more assets instead.  Newell is an interesting young player with a history with Flagg and much easier contract to stomach.

I ran across one of those "insiders" (for whatever that's worth) that claimed his Hawks guy told him a couple of months ago that the Mavs were pushing hard for Risacher, and that while they (ATL) kept him out of negotiations at first, they had recently caved and agreed to include him. The timing of this was supposed to have happened around the time Stein started using Risacher's name. 

Not sure what I believe or don't, but I do kinda think there's some legitimacy to all of this, at least in terms of serious negotiations happening between ATL and DAL. All the rumors are basically the same, but with minor differences. I really like that Mannix felt confident enough to say that not only has DAL asked for that Pelicans pick, but that they've been focused on prying it away "for a while." That doesn't mean they'll get it, obviously, but they're reaching for assets that could make a difference, at least.

[Dirknows]

I ran across one of those "insiders" (for whatever that's worth) that claimed his Hawks guy told him a couple of months ago that the Mavs were pushing hard for Risacher, and that while they (ATL) kept him out of negotiations at first, they had recently caved and agreed to include him. The timing of this was supposed to have happened around the time Stein started using Risacher's name. 

Not sure what I believe or don't, but I do kinda think there's some legitimacy to all of this, at least in terms of serious negotiations happening between ATL and DAL. All the rumors are basically the same, but with minor differences. I really like that Mannix felt confident enough to say that not only has DAL asked for that Pelicans pick, but that they've been focused on prying it away "for a while." That doesn't mean they'll get it, obviously, but they're reaching for assets that could make a difference, at least.

I'm not a huge Risacher fan, but if they can somehow manage even a Pelicans swap that would be huge.

[mvossman]

I ran across one of those "insiders" (for whatever that's worth) that claimed his Hawks guy told him a couple of months ago that the Mavs were pushing hard for Risacher, and that while they (ATL) kept him out of negotiations at first, they had recently caved and agreed to include him. The timing of this was supposed to have happened around the time Stein started using Risacher's name. 

Not sure what I believe or don't, but I do kinda think there's some legitimacy to all of this, at least in terms of serious negotiations happening between ATL and DAL. All the rumors are basically the same, but with minor differences. I really like that Mannix felt confident enough to say that not only has DAL asked for that Pelicans pick, but that they've been focused on prying it away "for a while." That doesn't mean they'll get it, obviously, but they're reaching for assets that could make a difference, at least.

Given that they are pushing for Risacher and the NOP pick, it seems unlikely they will settle for that crap return that Rick Paul liked.

[KillerLeft]

Given that they are pushing for Risacher and the NOP pick, it seems unlikely they will settle for that crap return that Rick Paul liked.

I don't think there's any way they take a deal like that. I know some are so down on AD that they would, push come to shove, and I get it - for some, the conversation starts and ends with "he's always going to be hurt," and it's tough to convince someone whose opinion has reached that point that keeping Davis is even a viable option, but it would be for me, and I get the sense (could be wrong) that it is for the Mavs, too. 

That's a good thing, whether it's the right move or not, because it does give the Mavs a little more leverage, imho. If you're truly willing to maintain the status quo into the summer, or even into next season, then you won't make any terrible deals, and teams will figure that out. They either really want to trade for AD, or they don't. 

I don't really know what's true in terms of what the Mavs want to get out of any kind of ATL negotiations. There are a lot of variations on the rumors. But, I have gotten the sense that they're reaching for a lot, and that's encouraging for me, tbh.

[mvossman]

I don't think there's any way they take a deal like that. I know some are so down on AD that they would, push come to shove, and I get it - for some, the conversation starts and ends with "he's always going to be hurt," and it's tough to convince someone whose opinion has reached that point that keeping Davis is even a viable option, but it would be for me, and I get the sense (could be wrong) that it is for the Mavs, too. 

That's a good thing, whether it's the right move or not, because it does give the Mavs a little more leverage, imho. If you're truly willing to maintain the status quo into the summer, or even into next season, then you won't make any terrible deals, and teams will figure that out. They either really want to trade for AD, or they don't. 

I don't really know what's true in terms of what the Mavs want to get out of any kind of ATL negotiations. There are a lot of variations on the rumors. But, I have gotten the sense that they're reaching for a lot, and that's encouraging for me, tbh.

If I knew (and there is no way to know) that package was the best they could ever get for AD, I would probably pull the trigger.  Its not as much about being down on AD specifically, its more about I don't think this iteration of the team has any chance to contend, and I want them to get as much as they can out of the current vets and the upcoming draft.  I think they will be able to get more, and I am glad they are aiming high on what they are looking for.

[RoyTarpleysGhost]

Let's say they agree on Risacher and matching salary. These are the picks Atlanta has: https://fanspo.com/nba/teams/Hawks/1/draft-picks

2026: Pelicans 1st rd pick AND Cavaliers 1st rd pick
2027: Less favorable of Pelicans or Bucks 1st rd pick
2028: More favorable of their own 1st rd pick or Cavs 1st rd pick
2029: Their own 1st rd pick

There are a lot of possibilities. Are the Mavs ONLY getting one pick? so they're aiming for the most valuable Pelicans 2026 pick? Or could you try to get two of the lesser picks? or is ATL only offering the least valuable 2029 pick?

[Dirknows]

Let's say they agree on Risacher and matching salary.  These are the picks Atlanta has: https://fanspo.com/nba/teams/Hawks/1/draft-picks

2026:  Pelicans 1st rd pick  AND Cavaliers 1st rd pick
2027:  Less favorable of Pelicans or Bucks 1st rd pick
2028:  More favorable of their own 1st rd pick or Cavs 1st rd pick
2029:  Their own 1st rd pick

There are a lot of possibilities.  Are the Mavs ONLY getting one pick? so they're aiming for the most valuable Pelicans 2026 pick?  Or could you try to get two of the lesser picks?  or is ATL only offering the least valuable 2029 pick?

If they somehow manage to get the Pelicans 2026 pick that would certainly be the only pick they get.

[loki]

Let's say they agree on Risacher and matching salary.  These are the picks Atlanta has: https://fanspo.com/nba/teams/Hawks/1/draft-picks

2026:  Pelicans 1st rd pick  AND Cavaliers 1st rd pick
2027:  Less favorable of Pelicans or Bucks 1st rd pick
2028:  More favorable of their own 1st rd pick or Cavs 1st rd pick
2029:  Their own 1st rd pick

There are a lot of possibilities.  Are the Mavs ONLY getting one pick? so they're aiming for the most valuable Pelicans 2026 pick?  Or could you try to get two of the lesser picks?  or is ATL only offering the least valuable 2029 pick?

I haven't heard any reporting on picks, but I suspect they aren't offering any right now based on wanting him "at a bargain". The Mavs are pushing for the most valuable pick. Could they meet in the middle somewhere? Possibly, if they can find a taker for Young.