MAVS NEWS:

[loki]

Man, if Kidd leaves, Nico can't be far behind right?  i mean he should be gone.  Sort of late to make a move now, but it needs to be considered.  Dumont has a chance to do a complete reset whether they keep AD or not.  Get rid of Nico and it is all parades for the next several years.  The Luka trade gets pinned on Nico and the new GM can focus buidling the next contender.  He will have a open runway for a few years and it would be a fun spot to be in.  Where we are currently is the GM is afraid to speak/show himself, and I have no idea how that gets better.  Every time you see him, it creates a negative reaction of the guy who broke the fan trust and traded their adopted son.  Does that ever get better?

I think it depends what happens with Kyrie and AD. If Kidd leaving means they no longer want to be here, Nico is gone in an instant. That would be the final nail in the coffin of his attempt to "win now".

[HoosierDaddyKid]

What is Kidd's contract situation? I honestly don't know. Is he up for an extension? He could be using NY as leverage to get one.

[DallasMaverick]

I think Kidd likes his job, gets along well with Nico, and likes his team.

One could make a case that they are much better positioned to win than the Knicks right now, and into the future.

And, I don't think Nico's job is in jeopardy yet. Dumont needs to see the long-term results of his moves. If the team is a consistent 50-game winner, and competes well in the playoffs, I don't see a change coming.

I don't get the sense that Dumont or Nico is a go-for-broke win-now kind of owner or GM. Long-term consistency, stability more important.

We'll see.

[Kidnova]

I think Kidd likes his job, gets along well with Nico, and likes his team.

One could make a case that they are much better positioned to win than the Knicks right now, and into the future.

And, I don't think Nico's job is in jeopardy yet.  Dumont needs to see the long-term results of his moves. If the team is a consistent 50-game winner, and competes well in the playoffs, I don't see a change coming.

I don't get the sense that Dumont or Nico is a go-for-broke win-now kind of owner or GM.  Long-term consistency, stability more important.

We'll see.

If they were going to fire Nico, they would have done it already, I think.  Short of Flagg coming in and saying, "I'm not playing for a guy that did what Nico did to Luka", which won't happen, it's his roster to put together for this coming season.  I also think Kidd ultimately stays, due to his relationships with KI and AD, if nothing else.

[loki]

What is Kidd's contract situation?  I honestly don't know. Is he up for an extension? He could be using NY as leverage to get one.

He signed an extension last season during the playoff run. Not sure exactly on the length, but I've heard he has at least a couple years left.

[numnuts23]

This is all pretty telling of what a mess the organization still is

Flagg is probably looking at this right now, thinking WTF and I'm getting into.

[Ghost of Podkolzin]

I really disagree on this ^ thesis. 

I don't think Kidd (or ANY smart coach) -- nor any smart player, either -- should or would shut the door on teams who are interested in their services. Players and coaches alike are always one impulsive (maybe even stupid) management decision away from looking for their next job, and are smart to let interested people remain interested. No need to comment, just let it sit out there without commenting, because the fact that teams are interested in you is in your best interest for every team to know. Kidd has had to look for a new job before and has learned how it works. So we should not expect him to shut it down when it happens, to work against his own self interest.

In addition, Kidd can't actually speak to NY's interest (or his own) when there hasn't even been a public expression of interest by NY, nor a formal request to talk to him. 

At its core, this was actually a NY attempt to tamper via the media. Then that NY media swirled the waters, with it being further stirred by the usual like Windy who are long on comments and short on actual info beyond their own opinions on what makes sense. They will keep it alive until NY finds a coach not named Kidd.

If the Mavs GM had a clue on handling such things (sadly, he does not), he would gotten out in front of it, by either lodging a tampering complaint, or engaging NY aggressively in trade talks. His pathetically late and tepid response has done neither -- yet another blunder by the idiot GM making their decisions. If I'm a Mavs player, the continuous lack of effective FO leadership is unsettling.

Which is yet another reminder -- Nico's gotta go.

This!  You ALWAYS listen to opportunities.

[cow]

Send us draft compensation and Kidd is all yours, New York.

[michaeltex]

Whether or not Kidd stays or leaves or what happens with Nico, this is not the time to change management. There is only 2 weeks to draft night with trade possibilities up and through that night. FA period follows the next week, with other signing/trade opportunities.

There has to be someone to answer the phone who had an inkling of the team needs and direction. Even if there were alternates available now for those two key positions, they would be hard pressed to get functional in just a couple weeks.

[Winter]

This came out a few hours ago - about Kidd and the Knicks. This is an article mostly about Kidd's leverage

https://www.dmagazine.com/sports/2025/06...ba-dallas/

Here is the last paragraph:

"Kidd has leverage, and he’s a seasoned politician. He is going to do everything he can to separate himself from Harrison, in an attempt to ultimately leapfrog him if he stays in Dallas. Harrison is going to be fired one day. These overtures from the outside are a reminder that Kidd will do whatever it takes to make sure he’s not right there with him. Even if that means warming to the thought of coaching halfway across the country. "

Another article came out a couple of hours ago - mostly from the Knicks angle

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/would...avs-coach/

[KillerLeft]

I think the possible interest is Giannis related.  Everyone is looking for a leg up.  Kidd as coach is perceived to be a benefit to NY.  Atlanta is holding open their President of Basketball Operations position and GA's agent is a leading candidate.  Who knows what else is going on behind the scenes.

BTW, I wonder if any of the Giannis losers might get aggressive in an offer for AD.  It won't happen, but if one wants to dream, it seems like fertile ground for finding a possible deal.

This. 

Kidd's name was leaked not only because of his relationship with Brunson, but also, and maybe even MORE SO because of his relationship with Giannis. The play is to get Giannis to want to play in NY, which would make crafting a deal to trade for him much more plausible. 

From Kidd's POV, I can also see how the possibility of coaching both Brunson and Giannis in NY might have some allure, so maybe he's not killing it for that same reason - waiting to see what Giannis thinks about it. 

I hadn't heard anyone connect those dots before your post, but it makes all the sense in the world. A team without a PG is not a contender, and there's just no way Jason Kidd doesn't know that.

[Ghost of Podkolzin]

This. 

Kidd's name was leaked not only because of his relationship with Brunson, but also, and maybe even MORE SO because of his relationship with Giannis. The play is to get Giannis to want to play in NY, which would make crafting a deal to trade for him much more plausible. 

From Kidd's POV, I can also see how the possibility of coaching both Brunson and Giannis in NY might have some allure, so maybe he's not killing it for that same reason - waiting to see what Giannis thinks about it. 

I hadn't heard anyone connect those dots before your post, but it makes all the sense in the world. A team without a PG is not a contender, and there's just no way Jason Kidd doesn't know that.

Wait, does Giannis have a high opinion of Kidd?  Kidd flamed out big in MIL.  I was thinking the opposite.  If NYK get Kidd it means their Giannis aspirations are over.

[cow]

Wait, does Giannis have a high opinion of Kidd?  Kidd flamed out big in MIL.  I was thinking the opposite.  If NYK get Kidd it means their Giannis aspirations are over.

Giannis has always credited Kidd with his development.  The Bucks wanted Kidd gone more so than Giannis.

[Ghost of Podkolzin]

Giannis has always credited Kidd with his development.  The Bucks wanted Kidd gone more so than Giannis.

Not sure that's the case...

https://clutchpoints.com/nba/dallas-mave...etokounmpo

[michaeltex]

Kidd has a checkered coaching history. His first job was the Nets where he tried to foment a management overthrow for his own benefit. The fallout from that drove him to MKE, where he improved the team and the record, but got a reputation as a hard ass (remember midnight practices after an away game loss, over a holiday). A stint on the LALs bench staff seemed to mellow him a bit, so that he was more palatable to Cuban when the DAL HC position suddenly became available.

4 years and 2 WCF + an NBA Finals isn't bad considering the injury armageddon last season (fortuitously) just missed the POs by one game.

[DanSchwartzgan]

This. 

Kidd's name was leaked not only because of his relationship with Brunson, but also, and maybe even MORE SO because of his relationship with Giannis. The play is to get Giannis to want to play in NY, which would make crafting a deal to trade for him much more plausible. 

From Kidd's POV, I can also see how the possibility of coaching both Brunson and Giannis in NY might have some allure, so maybe he's not killing it for that same reason - waiting to see what Giannis thinks about it. 

I hadn't heard anyone connect those dots before your post, but it makes all the sense in the world. A team without a PG is not a contender, and there's just no way Jason Kidd doesn't know that.

I think Milwaukee is smart to let this thing get closer to the draft.  It might be quite the free-for-all the final day or two.  Meanwhile, teams are dropping (not so) subtle hints through the media that they are open for business.  BTW, I think it is wrong to say Milwaukee wants this guy or that guy or this many picks from NY (or anyone else).  There isn't anyone on NY or any pick from another team that fixes the Bucks.  

The better question is what does New Orleans (and to a lesser extent) Portland want.  They control Milwaukee's draft.  With Lillard out and GA gone, the Bucks need to tear it down.  The Pelicans also want to be bad next season.  Swap rights with Milwaukee is just more ping pong balls for them.  It isn't a second asset.  But, releasing those rights could create a second asset.

NY would do itself a favor by getting under the first apron first before it does anything.  I'll point out that Mitchell is from Louisiana and fits in a $13mm TPE they have.   I'm not saying Mitchell is worth releasing the swap rights at all.  I'm just saying Mitchell to NO might be part of a larger deal that also helps NY start the process as a non-apron team.  I could see this thing (whether NY, Atlanta, Toronto or whoever) being a massive massive deal as teams try to deal with apron-omics and satisfying the needs of multiple parties to get Milwaukee's swap rights back.

[Ghost of Podkolzin]

I think Milwaukee is smart to let this thing get closer to the draft.  It might be quite the free-for-all the final day or two.  Meanwhile, teams are dropping (not so) subtle hints through the media that they are open for business.  BTW, I think it is wrong to say Milwaukee wants this guy or that guy or this many picks from NY (or anyone else).  There isn't anyone on NY or any pick from another team that fixes the Bucks.  

The better question is what does New Orleans (and to a lesser extent) Portland want.  They control Milwaukee's draft.  With Lillard out and GA gone, the Bucks need to tear it down.  The Pelicans also want to be bad next season.  Swap rights with Milwaukee is just more ping pong balls for them.  It isn't a second asset.  But, releasing those rights could create a second asset.

NY would do itself a favor by getting under the first apron first before it does anything.  I'll point out that Mitchell is from Louisiana and fits in a $13mm TPE they have.   I'm not saying Mitchell is worth releasing the swap rights at all.  I'm just saying Mitchell to NO might be part of a larger deal that also helps NY start the process as a non-apron team.  I could see this thing (whether NY, Atlanta, Toronto or whoever) being a massive massive deal as teams try to deal with apron-omics and satisfying the needs of multiple parties to get Milwaukee's swap rights back.

JB/Hart makes sense for MIL, obviously would have to move Dame.

[Ghost of Podkolzin]

Kidd has a checkered coaching history. His first job was the Nets where he tried to foment a management overthrow for his own benefit. The fallout from that drove him to MKE, where he improved the team and the record, but got a reputation as a hard ass (remember midnight practices after an away game loss, over a holiday). A stint on the LALs bench staff seemed to mellow him a bit, so that he was more palatable to Cuban when the DAL HC position suddenly became available.

4 years and 2 WCF + an NBA Finals isn't bad considering the injury armageddon last season (fortuitously) just missed the POs by one game.

Yes!  Pierce, KG, and Terry all wanted to kick his ass.  He put Larry Sanders in the hospital.  I thought he was doing the same here with C.Wood, but it turns out he was actually a POS.

Kidd will become toxic at some point.  This dates back to HS.  He's been a coach killer since college.  The dude can't sustain relationships.

This is all the reason in the world to sell high.

[DallasMaverick]

Yes!  Pierce, KG, and Terry all wanted to kick his ass.  He put Larry Sanders in the hospital.  I thought he was doing the same here with C.Wood, but it turns out he was actually a POS.

Kidd will become toxic at some point.  This dates back to HS.  He's been a coach killer since college.  The dude can't sustain relationships.

This is all the reason in the world to sell high.

Most humans tend to learn from their mistakes, especially if the consequences are painful.

So far, Kidd seems to not be repeating some of his earlier gaffes.

[Ghost of Podkolzin]

Most humans tend to learn from their mistakes, especially if the consequences are painful.

So far, Kidd seems to not be repeating some of his earlier gaffes.

Good point.  I must admit, he's shocked me so far with the Mavs.  I still kinda see this as a "sell high" opportunity.