Trade & FA 2024-25:

[SleepingHero]

It really is getting a little ridiculous.

Yeah I think they've made it a bit too prohibitive to make trades now imo.

[Chicagojk]

Washington's current salary for the entire roster is 147,738,573. They are one of the few teams just straggling the cap line. 


A swap of THJ and Shamet in 2023 should be legal (unless I'm missing a caveat). 

Mavs would generate about 6 million this season and if they waive Shamet, the entirety of THJ's contract. 

Mavs roster number is now: 160,058,256 with 18,596,744 of space before the 1st apron. 

If DJJ takes the entire MLE, the Mavs are left with about 5.7 mil of space before the 1st apron and need to fill 1 roster spot. Lets assume the last roster spot is a 2nd round pick of 1.1 mil. That leaves the Mavs with ~4.6 mil of space. 

They still have Green+Maxi+Lawson (total of 25,775,004) to package. They obviously can't do a 3 for 1 trade cause they have roster spot considerations to adhere to. But if they wanted to do a  2 for 3 deal where the total salary is about 27 mil, the Mavs can do it, sign a vet min guy, and stay under the 1st apron.

Great.  So if I am reading right, if they did this they can sign DJJ for the MLE and still have money available.  What happens if they can pawn off Powell for nothing.  Would that be enough for a Covington, Batum ( I would love him but I think he gets more), or some other veteran.    It just feels like it is going to be tough to find minutes for this type of player, even if they deserve it.

[omahen]

Josh Mazur (@MazurFocus)
Detroit, Atlanta, Miami, and Washington are potential THJ landing spots. Those teams have been contacted, no word on what players would be involved in potential swaps but you could probably guess by the what $ works and what doesn't.

This list is very strange. Not many similarities. Detroit obviously has all the cap space in July. Washington is unlikely to have cap space, but they have Shamet (as a way to cut pay) and some other potentially interested players. Atlanta and Miami don't have players that would help reduce Mavs payroll by using THJ.

It could indicate Mavs have other ways to resign DJJ

[SleepingHero]

This list is very strange. Not many similarities. Detroit obviously has all the cap space in July. Washington is unlikely to have cap space, but they have Shamet (as a way to cut pay) and some other potentially interested players. Atlanta and Miami don't have players that would help reduce Mavs payroll by using THJ.

It could indicate Mavs have other ways to resign DJJ

If DJJ accepts the 1+1 TP-MLE, the Mavs summer gets a hell of a lot easier. I don't think he's going to do it, but seeing some of the random names floated the last 3 or 4 days (Jerami Grant, Tobias Harris) and now the Hawks (Bogdanovic?) and Miami (Duncan Robinson?), I'm just a tad bit more hopeful.

[SleepingHero]

Great.  So if I am reading right, if they did this they can sign DJJ for the MLE and still have money available.  What happens if they can pawn off Powell for nothing.  Would that be enough for a Covington, Batum ( I would love him but I think he gets more), or some other veteran.    It just feels like it is going to be tough to find minutes for this type of player, even if they deserve it.

If they send Powell for air, just add 4 million flat to the numbers. So they can take back up to ~31 mil in a 2 for 3 trade. They'd have ~9 mil of room before the 1st apron (regardless of any trade). 

Is 9 mil enough for Batum? Covington? Maybe. BAE is 4.7 mil.

[Chicagojk]

https://www.reddit.com/r/washingtonwizar...hamet_11m/

[Chicagojk]

least exciting sweepstakes ever

https://x.com/TheDunkCentral/status/1805269238791143582

[DanSchwartzgan]

Yeah I don't know why CBAMavs said that. The 2024-25 season doesn't officially start until July 1st. Until then we're in 2023-24. As long as the Mavs trade for Shamet before his guarantee the Mavs can do a trade and dump pretty easily. 

Its the exact same concept the Warriors are trying to do for CP3 right now.


*Asterisk here saying I don't know everything about the new CBA and I could easily be wrong. So take this with a grain of salt.

You do have to guarantee enough of his 24-25 salary to make the trade match legal.  Same with CP3.  They aren’t trading him as an instantly vanishing trade chip.  Those don’t exist anymore.

I think the play here is to trade match Shamet for THJ.  That gets you about $7.5m under the apron with no cushion.  Then you S/W him as others have mentioned.  That gets you $14mm under the apron.

If you do the protected 2025 for Washington #26 thing that I’ve brought up before, it costs you $2.6mm to pay for the rookie.  But, you were going to need a minimum wage guy at $2.0mm anyway.  Now you have $11.5mm left to fund a cushion under the apron and pay DJJ a starting wage of about $10.0-$10.5mm

Edit: You only have to guarantee enough of Shamet’s salary to make the trade legal. So, depending on timing, that might save a few more dollars.

[RoyTarpleysGhost]

NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral)
The Washington Wizards are the favorites to win the Tim Hardaway Jr. sweepstakes, per @BovadaOfficial

Washington Wizards +225
Atlanta Hawks +240
Detroit Pistons +325
LA Lakers +700
Portland Trail Blazers +700
Brooklyn Nets +700
Milwaukee Bucks +950

LMAO at sweepstakes

[RoyTarpleysGhost]

"sweepstakes"

Damnit

[Mavs2021]

Chicagojk

Yeah, pricey team that didn't even make the playin.   I admit, Toronto has fooled me the last two years.  I liked their talent and thought they would be better.   I guess that is why the moved OG and Siakam (probably a little too late for both).   They are looking to have a pretty expensive team that lacks a #1 and team that still feels like it has a lot of holes.  

I really like Barnes though.   Just not sure he is ever a #1 on a contender.

Yeah seems crazy. Given how much of a difference FVV, OG and Siakam made on their new teams, it seems that they were the drivers of their "success".

But necessary contracts like this one also show why teams might be so incredibly hesitant to dish out the big bucks for players in their early to mid 30s now.

Thompson obviously can´t find a 72/3 offer. Clippers are telling PG 13: good luck finding 50M p.a. in the open market. 

I wonder whether we could actually do a S&T DeRozan 54/3 for THJ/Powell +2nd round picks, where we actually gain some flexibility toward the DJJ re-signing. The rest coming from a different Kleber trade.

[RoyTarpleysGhost]

I agree here. 

Poole is the guy they're really wanting to move, obviously, and Kuzma is much more likely to be moved than Advija, especially considering the likely Sarr pick. Sarr will probably play more 5 than 4, but there's still much more overlap with Kuzma than Advija. 

I hate to say it, but I kind of feel like we can forget about Advija for a while. He's literally the only player on that team who I'd want to KEEP if I followed them.

Rumors are that Sarr wants to play the 4. The Wizards were rumored to be in on Mitchell Robinson just a couple of days ago.

[KillerLeft]

Rumors are that Sarr wants to play the 4. The Wizards were rumored to be in on Mitchell Robinson just a couple of days ago.

I don't feel like that's a path likely to yield much success for him, but if that's true then they almost must move Kuzma, I think.

[BigDirk41]

I don't feel like that's a path likely to yield much success for him, but if that's true then they almost must move Kuzma, I think.

Let's hope they don't move Kuzma to Dallas!

[RoyTarpleysGhost]

I don't feel like that's a path likely to yield much success for him, but if that's true then they almost must move Kuzma, I think.

Maybe I dreamt all of this but there was also mention of Coulibaly playing the two. Think I saw it on Reddit. 

Poole
Coulibaly
Kuzma or Avdija
Sarr
center/Mitchell Robinson

It doesn’t seem like every team in the league wants to play small ball.

I agree the simple solution seems to be to plug Sarr in at center.

Edit: the link Chicago just posted also mentions the interest in Mitchell Robinson.

[SleepingHero]

@wojespn
ESPN Sources: Denver Nuggets guard Reggie Jackson is picking up his $5.25M option to return for the 2024-2025 season. Jackson averaged 10.2 points and 3.8 assists in 82 games.

[KillerLeft]

Maybe I dreamt all of this but there was also mention of Coulibaly playing the two. Think I saw it on Reddit. 

Poole
Coulibaly
Kuzma or Avdija
Sarr
center/Mitchell Robinson

It doesn’t seem like every team in the league wants to play small ball.

Just speculating why either Kuzma or Avdija might be available.

Teams will naturally get bigger as the bigger players get more skilled. It's not moving away from small ball so much as it's the athletes and lower level training catching up to the new realities of what skills are required from each position. 

I don't think Sarr is a forward, but don't know his game well enough yet to declare anything strongly. I know playing Kuzma at the 3 would be a huge mistake. I know that the way I know the sky is blue. Playing the 3 means you're going to get cross-matches with guards and quicker, offensively dangerous wings. Not where I'd want to be with Kuzma, Tobias Harris, or many of the other names we discuss around here.

[RoyTarpleysGhost]

It’s the Wizards. I wouldn’t read too much into what the optimal positions are in the modern NBA.

[Chicagojk]

The athletic say the Kings will be aggressive this offseason. They say they were close to a Caruso trade with this years 13 pick and other assets.

[KillerLeft]

It’s the Wizards. I wouldn’t read too much into what the optimal positions are in the modern NBA.

Lololol...touché.