Trade & FA 2024-25:

[SleepingHero]

Cuban leaves office and suddenly all his pipedream superstars become available: Butler, PG13, Harden, Klay, Lebron....I bet he could have gotten one of them for 200/4 and be totally shocked, when they miss half the season in their mid to late 30s with lot of mileage. We are so lucky.

And I still would like any one of those guys save Harden. 


Jimmy on this team would be very interesting.

[KillerLeft]

I don´t know. The guy is a billionaire that nearly lost his son 12 months ago. Might shift your priorities. He´s not catching up with Jordan. The Air is out of that one. He broke Kareem´s points record and it did not shift public opinion either.

I don´t expect him to sign a minimum deal, but $20-25M or even the MLE for a S&T to a contender that added Bronny. I could totally see that. If Lebron wants to play with his son on a contender, he´ll have to take a discount anyway, cause LeBron at $50M will likely be a net negative trade for all the assets and cap flexibility you´ll lose in the trade process.

I don't think "trade asset" will enter into the thinking for either side. I think the Lakers will give him much, much more than what is appropriate for his age and current contribution (as impressive as it still is at his age) because they'll never, ever trade him. He is the one and only thing that has saved that franchise since the end of the Jackson/Bryant era. I think he is bringing in more money for the franchise than they could ever pay him, and my guess is that, like Dirk here, if he tells them he wants to keep playing when he's 57, they'll let him do it, and probably almost completely on his terms.

[Jmaciscool]

It’s not happening, dude. He’s going to get a bigger bag from the Lakers. Not only is taking a discount (let alone the minimum) not going to enter into his thinking, I would bet my last dollar that the entire point of him opting out is to get more years and more money on this deal, which will probably be his last. We are talking about a guy who wants to own an NBA team. I do not believe it’s about playing with his son, and I do not believe it’s about going to a winning situation. I literally think this is all about getting the most money possible.

It will definitely be a fun, crazy thing to watch everybody overreact to every report and tweet over the next two months though. Not just Mavs fans - EVERYONE. My approach is going to be to refuse the cheese at every turn.

I'm no cap expert at all, but if this article is correct it indicates that he would make (slightly) more money by not opting out:

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/lebro...er-report/

I don't really think he would sign with the Mavs at a minimum, but I do think there are a lot of factors he would consider beyond just money.  Who knows though, that's what makes it fun!

[KillerLeft]

I'm no cap expert at all, but if this article is correct it indicates that he would make (slightly) more money by not opting out:

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/lebro...er-report/

I don't really think he would sign with the Mavs at a minimum, but I do think there are a lot of factors he would consider beyond just money.  Who knows though, that's what makes it fun!

Emphasis on "slightly," and it might be that he's not being offered that opt-in and extend that the article mentions. Perhaps this threat is to get them to offer it, or perhaps they (Lakers) don't think he'll get another team to offer him the slightly lesser deal mentioned, either, leading LeBron and his team to believe they must opt out and prove the money they want is out there. So many ways it could play out, but I think he'll end up in LA with a deal bigger than what's being offered right now (whatever it is).

[SleepingHero]

@esidery
The Pacers are currently working on a long-term extension for T.J. McConnell, per
@ShamsCharania
on
@PatMcAfeeShow
.

McConnell is now poised to finish his career in Indiana.

[Chicagojk]

I am terrible at trades but how about Hardaway, Maxi and a couple of seconds for John Collins. Collins was a little disappointing in Utah this year but did get his three point percentage up to 37%. Utah gets an expiring in Hardaway and a guy that could be valuable to move if he is healthy. Plus a couple of seconds.

Dallas gets another player with size who can finish. He can play backup 4. A little small ball 5. Maybe pair him with PJ at the 3 and 4 at times.

His salary is not good but what do you think?

[KillerLeft]

I am terrible at trades but how about Hardaway, Maxi and a couple of seconds for John Collins.  Collins was a little disappointing in Utah this year but did get his three point percentage up to 37%.  Utah gets an expiring in Hardaway and a guy that could be valuable to move if he is healthy.  Plus a couple of seconds.

Dallas gets another player with size who can finish.  He can play backup 4.  A little small ball 5.  Maybe pair him with PJ at the 3 and 4 at times.   

His salary is not good but what do you think?

I don't hate it, but not INSTEAD of DJJ. Can't add Colins and lose DJJ because you'd be left with no quicker POA wing, unless you're in the "start Green" camp, and even then I think you've created a hole where Green used to be, coming off the bench. I think this creates a situation at the 4, with PJ and Collins, that they already have at the 5, with Lively and Gafford, and that Collins would probably need to come off the bench to make it work. I do think you've done a turn by making the Kleber spot younger, and it's a reasonably good solution to losing what Kleber brings to the table, but I feel like it's pretty clear Collins/Washington wouldn't work together (next to a center, at least). 

If there's a way to do that AND re-sign DJJ, I'm in, only I'd much prefer Grant. He's longer, quicker, faster, a much better defender, more multi-positional and more generally versatile on both ends than Collins. Basically, he's a tier above Collins as a player and the difference is significant for me. I'd actually do a Grant deal even if it meant losing DJJ, I think. I feel that strongly about how he could potentially fit.

[Knutsen]

I don´t know. The guy is a billionaire that nearly lost his son 12 months ago. Might shift your priorities. He´s not catching up with Jordan. The Air is out of that one. He broke Kareem´s points record and it did not shift public opinion either.

I don´t expect him to sign a minimum deal, but $20-25M or even the MLE for a S&T to a contender that added Bronny. I could totally see that. If Lebron wants to play with his son on a contender, he´ll have to take a discount anyway, cause LeBron at $50M will likely be a net negative trade for all the assets and cap flexibility you´ll lose in the trade process.

There are three or four teams who give him the chance to tie or overtake MJ‘s six titles in the next two years. Those are the Celtics, the Nuggets, our Mavs and the Thunder. 

So it all depends if he favors winning and his legend over money and his bank account. I think he‘ll stay with the Lakers, but if he where to change teams we‘d probably the clear cut favorite to get him.

[SleepingHero]

@Mazurfocus

In today’s not so surprising news. I’m told that Tim Hardaway Jr. is preparing himself to be traded this offseason. Both the Mavericks and THJ are ready for a fresh start after he felt out of the Mavs rotation toward the end of the season and the Mavs deep playoff run.

[SleepingHero]

I am terrible at trades but how about Hardaway, Maxi and a couple of seconds for John Collins.  Collins was a little disappointing in Utah this year but did get his three point percentage up to 37%.  Utah gets an expiring in Hardaway and a guy that could be valuable to move if he is healthy.  Plus a couple of seconds.

Dallas gets another player with size who can finish.  He can play backup 4.  A little small ball 5.  Maybe pair him with PJ at the 3 and 4 at times.   

His salary is not good but what do you think?

Collin's contract is so bad that Utah has to be the one to pay draft compensation for a team to take it off their hands. Atlanta had to do it for Utah, not sure why the Mavs are throwing in any picks here.

Especially since Maxi is arguably better than Collin's in terms of fit for this team.


I don't hate the idea, but the Mavs should be getting 1 of Utah's late firsts or their 2nds because getting Collin's off their books fixes their cap issues with Lauri pretty easily.

[SleepingHero]

@esidery
The Pistons are evaluating the trade market for Isaiah Stewart, per
@JakeLFischer
(https://sports.yahoo.com/with-bulls-rost...36313.html).

Stewart averaged 10.9 points, 6.6 rebounds and 1.6 assists while shooting 38.8% on threes.

[SleepingHero]

@TheDunkCentral
The Lakers could circle back on Dejounte Murray, per
@ShamsCharania


“They have to be aggressive and I think Dejounte Murray will come up in trade conversations.”

[HoosierDaddyKidd]

@esidery
The Pacers are currently working on a long-term extension for T.J. McConnell, per
@ShamsCharania
on
@PatMcAfeeShow
.

McConnell is now poised to finish his career in Indiana.

Smart move, dude is a baller.

[SleepingHero]

@TheDunkCentral
Doc Rivers is looking to change the core around Giannis Antetokounmpo and Damian Lillard, per
@WindhorstESPN


“There's starting to be rumblings that Doc Rivers is looking for a change or two to some of their core pieces. Not Dame or Giannis, but potentially looking at another maneuver they could make to alter their team. I think they could be active in the trade market coming up. I think it's less likely than Philly or New York that they could make this big move, but don't forget about Milwaukee.”

[SleepingHero]

@MavsFilmRoom
Chris Haynes, live on The Bleacher Report App names the Mavs as one of the teams expected to have some level of interest in Tobias Harris this summer.

Would have to be a sign-and-trade.

[SleepingHero]

@wojespn
Phoenix Suns center Drew Eubanks is declining his $2.6M player option and entering free agency, sources tell ESPN. After signing a one-plus-one deal with Suns, Eubanks averaged 5.1 points and 4.3 rebounds in 75 games.

[KillerLeft]

@MavsFilmRoom
Chris Haynes, live on The Bleacher Report App names the Mavs as one of the teams expected to have some level of interest in Tobias Harris this summer.

Would have to be a sign-and-trade.

Interesting. The hardwood knocks guys, one of whom is a Philadelphia fan about as ready to be rid of Harris as this community is to be rid of Hardaway (should tell us something), were arguing the other day about whether Harris is a minimum player, a tax payer mid-level guy or close to a full mid-level guy. They couldn’t decide. I would not be super thrilled about adding him, but he could be a nice bench option if he ends up in the lower half of that spectrum. 

I wonder how he is with above the break threes.

[mvossman]

Interesting. The hardwood knocks guys, one of whom is a Philadelphia fan about as ready to be rid of Harris as this community is to be rid of Hardaway (should tell us something), were arguing the other day about whether Harris is a minimum player, a tax payer mid-level guy or close to a full mid-level guy. They couldn’t decide. I would not be super thrilled about adding him, but he could be a nice bench option if he ends up in the lower half of that spectrum. 

I wonder how he is with above the break threes.

He just scored 17 points a game on decent efficiency starting on a playoff team, and he is only 31.  Hard to see him getting anything less than the MLE.

[SleepingHero]

@esidery
The Suns had outlined Drew Eubanks wasn’t in their plans next season, which is why he declined his player option.

Phoenix is prioritizing finding an upgrade over Eubanks in their center rotation.

[SleepingHero]

Interesting. The hardwood knocks guys, one of whom is a Philadelphia fan about as ready to be rid of Harris as this community is to be rid of Hardaway (should tell us something), were arguing the other day about whether Harris is a minimum player, a tax payer mid-level guy or close to a full mid-level guy. They couldn’t decide. I would not be super thrilled about adding him, but he could be a nice bench option if he ends up in the lower half of that spectrum. 

I wonder how he is with above the break threes.

Truthfully Philly is tired of Harris mostly because he isn't good enough to be a 2nd-3rd option. 

He was asked to be the 2nd scorer when Ben Simmons was around and he couldn't do it. He was asked to pick up a lot of nights offensively when Harden couldn't get it done. That wasn't his game.

Now he was asked to be the 3rd scorer behind Maxey and Embiid, but Embiid was injured, and Harris once again couldn't be that guy.


He's a luxury. A great 4th option that can have big scoring nights but I'm not surprised Philly fans are sick and tired of the guy they were paying 40mil to average 15ppg.

In Dallas, he really just has to be able to hit a spot up 3 and occasionally get his own shot. Far cry from what he was asked to do in Philly. 

I remember when they had Butler and Harris was a 4th option he was pretty much universally loved in PHI, so much so that they chose handing him a 180 mil deal over extending Butler.