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Trade & FA 2025-26: Free Agency Starts 5pm CST/6pm EST
Kuminga and Mathurin do make sense as guys that you could take a look at. They'd be the second option behind Flagg for two months. See if something clicks. If you don't see what you like, they're not on the books next year.

As the primary return in a trade with the idea they're part of the future, I don't like them.
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(Yesterday, 06:27 PM)RoyTarpleysGhost Wrote: Kuminga and Mathurin do make sense as guys that you could take a look at.  They'd be the second option behind Flagg for two months.  See if something clicks.  If you don't see what you like, they're not on the books next year.

As the primary return in a trade with the idea they're part of the future, I don't like them.

That's the problem, in both cases their current team expects assets back.  You can make a much better case for Mathurin but in both cases if the alternative is a late 26 pick, I would rather go with that.
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(Yesterday, 06:34 PM)mvossman Wrote: That's the problem, in both cases their current team expects assets back.  You can make a much better case for Mathurin but in both cases if the alternative is a late 26 pick, I would rather go with that.

I think that is implied. Basically you can have any of Klay, Hardy, Powell, Martin, Williams, DAR. That´s where it stops.
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(Yesterday, 06:34 PM)mvossman Wrote: That's the problem, in both cases their current team expects assets back.  You can make a much better case for Mathurin but in both cases if the alternative is a late 26 pick, I would rather go with that.

I get everyone wants draft capital, but what are the chances a pick in the 20’s becomes as good as Mathurin? I don’t love him but we just dumped our last pick in the 20’s in OMax.
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(Yesterday, 07:20 PM)Dirknows Wrote: I get everyone wants draft capital, but what are the chances a pick in the 20’s becomes as good as Mathurin? I don’t love him but we just dumped our last pick in the 20’s in OMax.

Also makes 10% of Mathurin. I can see the point in Mathurin, if you then decided to move on from Christie for draft capital in the future. Both on $20-25M together are redundant.
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(Yesterday, 07:20 PM)Dirknows Wrote: I get everyone wants draft capital, but what are the chances a pick in the 20’s becomes as good as Mathurin? I don’t love him but we just dumped our last pick in the 20’s in OMax.

Different drafts and different guy making the picks.

If you look at Mavs last 5 guys drafted out of the lottery or early second round they have Omax, Hardy, Terry, Green and Brunson.  Not much from the first 4 but Brunson was a massive home run.  I would take a 20% chance to get an elite creator.

Just looking at the Josh Green draft, most folks around here wanted to draft Bey, Bane or Maxy (I don't remember anybody being interested in Green).  Not a good sign when random bloggers do a better than the FO.  Hopefully whoever is running this next draft will have some idea of what they are doing.

The thing with draft picks that a lot are busts, especially non lottery picks.  But sometimes you hit, and sometimes big.  Its an odds game (although good FOs have much better odds).  The best way to play the odds is to take as many shots as you can.
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Mathurin could be worth taking a flyer on. Indy doesn't need him since they hit on Nembhard. He won't start over Haliburton/Nembhard/Nesmith and they won't pay him to be a backup. If the Mavs think he can be a starting wing here then they should go for him.
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(11 hours ago)Jakeospikez Wrote: Mathurin could be worth taking a flyer on. Indy doesn't need him since they hit on Nembhard. He won't start over Haliburton/Nembhard/Nesmith and they won't pay him to be a backup. If the Mavs think he can be a starting wing here then they should go for him.

This is how I feel, too. I'm nowhere near as warm and fuzzy as I am about Risacher's potential fit, or as confident as I was the year before last about how well PJW would fit here, but I do think this is the type of gamble they'll need to take. Everyone wants the team to get younger, but they can't all be blue chip top-5 Cooper Flagg sure things. As some point, a GM needs to have a vision for a young player who's stuck behind other guys but who might flourish if presented with the right opportunity in the right situation. No idea if that's Mathurin or not, but he sure impressed me as a rookie - way more than Kuminga ever did, that's for sure.
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I was playing around with Toronto ideas.  One word of caution, Barrett has a huge $3+mm Unlikely Incentive that counts against the apron.  So, you can't assume you've got a legal deal if you are doing your own spreadsheet unless you have that.

GSW can't take back more money for Kuminga and have been rumored to be interested in C's.  Vucevic and Poeltl are two C's who make just a little under what Kuminga makes.  There is a pretty clean version of AD to Chicago where Vuc goes to GSW and Kuminga, Collins and White end up in Dallas.  Hardy and Powell go to Chicago with the Bulls staying under the tax.  Easy enough to sub Huerter for Collins and D'Lo for Hardy if you like.
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Listening to NBA Radio during the morning drive and Scalabrine was making the point that it's hard to judge Kuminga's potential since the only data is on GSW which runs a one-off, Curry centered offense. He speculates that playing in a more conventional system where on court decisions are not controlled by the actions of one player might unlock Kuminga's true potential.

Just tossing it out there.
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