(02-13-2021, 10:56 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: That´s a legit question. I think Brunsons improvement reduces the need for another ballhandler. Same for THJs scoring ability. When both can combine for 30pts on an average night the Mavs are in a good spot. Personally I would prefer a more reliable 2nd/3rd/4th scoring option but the Mavs have bigger problems.
I think we have seen enough examples of teams with three allstar level scoring options to know that one of them is going to be marginalized. Only exception would be a spot up shooter like Klay Thompson. Maybe a defensive specialist or glue guy would be more valuable for the Mavs.

(02-13-2021, 10:16 AM)Hypermav Wrote: https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2021/02/12/nba-rumors-miami-heat-dallas-mavericks-trade-kristaps-porzingis/2/

I know these are click bait...

(02-13-2021, 10:34 AM)omahen Wrote: I was thinking after last night game, if Mavs really have room for a third star. Luka and KP took 51 shots out of 88 total. Ok, they were both hot and they were efficient shots. On average they take less, but still. Third most was THJ with 8. I think this affects him, he really looks shot hungry once he gets the ball. There might be too many score first guys on the roster. Even Brunson likes to take care of "himself". 

Luka and KP combined take nearly 40 shots on average. Out of the top 7 rotation Kleber and DFS are the only guys happy if they don't even take a shot, but of course defense leaves them wide open a couple of times a game and they shoot it. Over 10 per game between them. Brunson and THJ take their shots. Combined a bit over 20 shots per game. This leaves 10 shots for JRich and another 5-10 for other guys combined. If we bring another offensive talent into equation, things might become difficult if Brunson, JRich and THJ remain with the team. There will likely not be enough shots to go around. You would basically have to reduce KP and THJ shot number. I am not sure they would be happy about it.

(02-13-2021, 11:24 AM)omahen Wrote: I think the main question is, if this group has the potential to contend.  

If no, you basically have two options. First one is you can hope for internal development and play the patient game. The other one is start building a team anew, making everyone not named Luka available. Try to upgrade several positions. 

(02-13-2021, 12:23 PM)Jason Terry Wrote: I don’t see any reason why we would use our limited resources to make any changes to Luka, DFS, JR, JB, THj. 

Its always been about defense and rebounding. It’s the front court that possibly needs help.

(02-13-2021, 02:34 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: I think Omahen's quote is a false dichotomy. 

(02-13-2021, 03:01 PM)omahen Wrote: Perhaps it shouldn't be read to literate, I totally agree. Basically, I would have three scenarios:
1. Contend now: put the non elementary assets in a good vet. This means 2027 FRP, rookies, whatever needed (within reason, of course). We go all in starting this year. 
2. Patient game: continue developing the core with a minor tweak here and there. Like Johnson for Young
3. Reorganize. I never meant this a rebuild scenario. What I thought was - the building blocks don't fit well enough for Mavs to be a contender. Too many faults. More changes are needed for the pieces to fall together to create a contender.

As Mavs are playing now, they basicall have 30 mil of dead money sitting on the bench with Johnson, Powell and Bobi. Another almost dead 6 mil in Burke and Green. This needs to be upgraded. Young is sort of worst case scenario for me and I am affraid his stock has gained a lot of value, as he is playing very well. 

On a bit different topic, I would say Carlisle tightened the rotation not only to get back on track win wise, but also to have a mini traning camp/preseason, time for the key guys to start gelling together, which was not possible due to short preseason, injuries and Covid. I am quite sure he will start adding players to the rotation at some point. At least Green. I also don't believe the drop-off is so great that team couldn't function with deep bench guys getting involved here and there.

(02-13-2021, 03:03 PM)MFFL Wrote: Oladipo "feels" available

Obviously it would be better to trade for him and have his bird rights. Johnson for Oladipo works as a trade (and reduces Houston's cap by $5m). What additional compensation would we be willing to add?

(02-13-2021, 03:38 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Young is certainly more valuable than he was a month ago.  However, that $6mm guarantee next season will scare off some teams (I get that you can stretch-waive it for $2mm).  It comes into play for tax teams and teams trying to maintain cap space (including Chicago).  The Bulls may need to move non-expiring contracts so they can extend LaVine (as Pincus has described) AND use space on free agents.  Swapping him for expiring Johnson makes a lot of sense for Dallas and Chicago.  The question is the price past those two.

(02-13-2021, 03:51 PM)omahen Wrote: Young

(02-13-2021, 03:03 PM)MFFL Wrote: Oladipo "feels" available

Obviously it would be better to trade for him and have his bird rights. Johnson for Oladipo works as a trade (and reduces Houston's cap by $5m). What additional compensation would we be willing to add?

(02-13-2021, 04:23 PM)Tyler Wrote: I wouldn't touch Wall

(02-13-2021, 04:24 PM)omahen Wrote: Is there any other reason beyond his contract?

(02-13-2021, 04:46 PM)Tyler Wrote: At least two: injury history and gang associations. He's just not the type of player I think you can trust to stay healthy and not be a distraction in the locker room. There's a reason Washington paid Houston to take him.

Even if one is willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, $90mm over the next 2 years is pretty hard to ignore. I just don't think he's worth it.