(02-12-2021, 03:36 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: Moreover, if Collins and Capela is an issue there, why bring it here?

(02-12-2021, 03:42 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Question about snell for those who're familiar:

Is he more or less equipped than Luka/DFS to play minutes at the 4?

(02-12-2021, 04:32 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: He's a 6'6" SG, I'd say the jump to PF would be pretty close to undoable. However, it would be yours and Fifteen's dream to play with a C and 3 wings! That's the new NBA right?

(02-12-2021, 03:43 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: How about KP for Collins+, and then throwing all of the assets we can at a trade for Fournier and Vucevic?

(02-12-2021, 04:29 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: I've been thinking about that too, which makes me think, why is KP, who has told RC that he wants to be more involved in being the PnR guy as well as floor spacer, the right player to pair with Collins? I think someone like Vucevic might be the right C to pair with Collins...maybe. That gets me to thinking maybe a Collins for Gordon trade is the right thing to do for both teams. Orl can then look for a taker for Isaac and see what they can get.

(02-12-2021, 03:11 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Also a valid concern. Well worth considering. 

Every single discussion we have here leads me back to the same conclusion: KP is a dead end. We're trying to fit pieces in around him like he's Dirk - trying to cover for his weaknesses and preferences. Only, he's nowhere remotely in the same class as Dirk on the floor. Sooner or later, everyone is going to agree, I think, even though I hope I'm wrong.

(02-12-2021, 03:36 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: I think any trade proposal for Collins from the Mavs that doesn't include KP is going to get outbid. If you're giving up KP for Collins, you have to get some other moveable pieces back, because now you need a center as well as an additional playmaker. That might involve a third and even fourth team as some have suggested.

KP and Collins together is a nice dream if your name isn't Killer Left, but I just don't see it as a reasonable possibility. At this point, obtaining Collins and one or two other key pieces likely means that all of our big-minute guys outside of Luka are gone by the trade deadline, and that it's a completely lost season (you're welcome, Knicks), but hopefully with a brighter future.

Edit: to clarify, I retract my KP + Brunson for Collins + Capela proposal because 1) Publicly announcing Collins's availability will spark a bidding war, and 2) as noted above, I underestimated Capela's value to the Hawks, with the result that any such trade would involve us also shoving in more sweeteners than we could afford (as I've said, still need a playmaker!). Moreover, if Collins and Capela is an issue there, why bring it here?

(02-12-2021, 06:36 PM)jesusshuttlesworth82 Wrote: Not writing off anyone's career already but I'm pretty confident if we had Maxey or Quickley to include in any of these packages, it would be a MUCH stronger package.

(02-12-2021, 05:41 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Just had a thought? We play ATL. Collins plays well against us for the second time. Rumors come out that ATL is seeing what his trade market looks like. Did Donnie already have a convo with ATL and now ATL is shopping his offer to other teams?

(02-12-2021, 08:36 PM)Branduil Wrote: How about this pair of trades?

JRich/WCS/Burke/Johnson for Lowry/Boucher/Davis

https://tradenba.com/trades/U2L6wy34B

And

KP for Collins+Gallo

https://tradenba.com/trades/RyNuokHui


New lineup

Lowry / Brunson
Luka / THJ
DFS / Green
Collins / Powell
Boucher / Maxi

(02-12-2021, 10:54 PM)Hypermav Wrote: How did we beat the Spurs short handed?

(02-12-2021, 11:19 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: Mavs need to just get Gallo for a non top-7 rotation player and call it a day. Easy peasy.