(01-20-2021, 02:33 PM)HanspardsShowerVoice Wrote: I never understood why the Hawks didn't want to just give him the max and make him a cornerstone of their franchise with Trae and build on that, but they seem very reluctant to do so.    I get that he's a bit of a tweener on defense ... too slow to guard stretch bigs on the perimeter and doesn't provide enough rim  protection to plant under the rim.   Also maybe his offense is little anitiquated and built around mid range 2, though he's very efficient at making them maybe they don't want to make it a feature  of their offense.   It's very strange.   Maybe they just don't view him as a max player.

(01-20-2021, 05:28 PM)ClutchDirk Wrote: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2927142-updated-2021-nba-free-agency-big-board-after-a-month-of-games

(01-20-2021, 06:01 PM)cow Wrote: I'll keep wishing for Lonzo Ball.

(01-20-2021, 06:04 PM)Kammrath Wrote: I hear you....but as an RFA he is going to be hard to attain.

(01-20-2021, 06:01 PM)cow Wrote: I'll keep wishing for Lonzo Ball.

(01-20-2021, 06:55 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Budget version that should be available for trade is Ricky Rubio. His contract matches Johnsons expiring. If the Wolves are interested in capspace this should be an easy trade.

(01-20-2021, 07:03 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Richardson is NOT a shooter. You put ANOTHER non-shooter who prefers to handle the ball on the floor, that makes THREE of them. That's one too many, imo.

(01-20-2021, 07:08 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I know Lonzo isn't having that good of a season, but he shot nearly 38% on threes last year on 7 attempts a game. If he can do anything remotely like that then he's ideally the perfect off-guard for Luka. Big and willing defender, who is also a heady passer with a penchant of razzle dazzle.

Unfortunately I don't see the Pels being interested in anything the Mavs got. Maybe a package around THJ+Brunson for Lonzo+Reddick makes sense on paper but it seems like NOP is losing big there.

(01-20-2021, 08:17 PM)cow Wrote: Add in our FRP, SRPs, and be willing to sub THJ for JRich and one of Maxi/DFS.  I think we could make a somewhat attractive package.

(01-20-2021, 09:23 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: The thing is I don't think Lonzo is worth JRich alone, let alone him AND 1 of Maxi/DFS. Not even close. 

A package of JRich/Maxi/a 1st/2nds is a baseline package for an all-star in my mind. Not a role player struggling.

(01-20-2021, 08:17 PM)cow Wrote: Players have often seen upticks in shooting percentages next to Luka and in Carlisle's system, so I don't see why Lonzo couldn't do the same.

(01-20-2021, 07:08 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Unfortunately I don't see the Pels being interested in anything the Mavs got.

(01-20-2021, 09:27 PM)cow Wrote: Look at how the Pacers choked us with that Box and One in the 3rd quarter.

(01-20-2021, 09:38 PM)omahen Wrote: Personally I have never really see him play good and smart basketball.

(01-20-2021, 09:40 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I don't think Lonzo Ball would've really changed that tonight.

Perhaps if the Mavs had Richardson/Maxi/DFS along with Lonzo then yeah, but not Lonzo alone.

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(01-20-2021, 07:03 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: So the problem with EITHER Lonzo or Rubio, both of whom I like, is Richardson. 

Richardson is NOT a shooter. You put ANOTHER non-shooter who prefers to handle the ball on the floor, that makes THREE of them. That's one too many, imo.

IF Richardson can be THE secondary playmaker we've all been screaming for, then the Mavs are in good shape. If he's not good enough at that, then he is not a fit here, imo. Not being good enough as a handler doesn't magically transform him into being good enough as a catch and shoot guy who can work off ball to get shot opportunities to be the type of floor spacer the team needs. This, essentially, is why Delon Wright didn't work here. I'm a little worried that while Richardson is clearly better, he too might be an ill-fitting part on offense. Time will tell. 

You want to REPLACE Richardson with Lonzo? I'm listening to that, I think. Luka/Lonzo/Richardson TOGETHER would be a disaster.

(01-21-2021, 04:22 AM)Branduil Wrote: The problem with Lonzo is that he's trash. Can't shoot even when left wide open, can't score inside either, literally the opposite of a spacer on offense.

(01-21-2021, 08:32 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: If this was 2 years ago I'd agree with you. But Lonzo put up some solid numbers last year. This year he hasn't been consistent at all. He'd have 1 good game then 2 bad ones. 

But even still he had a 4 game stretch (he's only played 10 games) so far where he averaged 15.5ppg/5.8apg/5.5rpg on 43.1/36.7/50

So he can still get there. 37% from 3 was right where he was last year