(07-16-2021, 10:19 PM)Kammrath Wrote: One quick note:

If Kidd WANTS THT then I am all in. He would KNOW.

(07-16-2021, 09:42 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: He WAS! 

@"Kammrath" and I were literally the only ones here who wanted him. People made fun of us.

(07-16-2021, 11:23 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: I was a part of wanting Wood as well.

(07-16-2021, 11:08 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Assuming the Pelicans really let Ball walk (for whatever weird reason), then Brunson + Powell for Bledsoe might not be a bad idea, especially if you operate over the cap.


Powell 11.1 / 11.1
Brunson 1.8 / 3.4 (caphold)

Bledsoe 18.1 / 19.3 (3.9 guaranteed)

Pelicans get a younger veteran PG to compete with Lewis for the starting spot.

(07-17-2021, 12:59 AM)Branduil Wrote: No way would I take on Bledsoe for Powell+Brunson AND lose cap space. N.O. would have to give us major draft compensation for that.

(07-16-2021, 10:13 PM)Tyler Wrote: He's common-law on that team already. No backing out now.

Some people may roll their eyes at this, but hear me out. I personally I think of THT as sorta similar to Chandler Parsons when he was in Houston. Not that he's a similar player, but that he's in a similar situation -- a really good young role player who you're tempted to throw money at based on his potential.

(07-13-2021, 08:53 AM)Kammrath Wrote: My grade adjustments in bold.

(07-17-2021, 08:56 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: I’m going to need clarification Tyler.  Am I married to my past posts or to Cow in this arrangement?  Yes, Kamm, a Kidd endorsement would go a long way…same with Caruso.  Yes Killer, I think that is well put.  I do like the strategy part.  I think there are lots of ways to improve the roster, so I’m not married to any one player.  It needs to be someone I like though.  I mean I’m not going to spend any time on Bledsoe for Powell and Brunson

To be clear on THT, I’m all in if he’s a secondary addition.  I think we need at least two targets since we are presumably losing Hardaway and JRich.  You’d like both to be improvements on what we had.  So, the THJ replacement uses the bulk of the cap room and has to be an upgrade.  The other either uses an opted in JRich as a trade chip or the rest of the space created by JRich opting out. Given what we got from JRich, we don’t need a ton of improvement.  Positional needs is very much up for debate and all is dependent on possible trades of KP, Brunson, Powell and Maxi.

THT is an odd one for me.  I’m usually much less an eye test guy and much more a stats guy.  Parsons was projectable based on what he had done in Houston.  Win Scores of 7 with way above league average shooting (at the time) wasn’t easy to come by.  THT does some things that are just eye popping at 20.  You put a .380 percentage on 3’s and you don’t need much else to have a $20mm guy.  I don’t want to pay $20mm and the path to getting him for $10-$12mm is pretty narrow.  So, I’m not optimistic.  But, there is a set of circumstances where I’d make an offer after securing our primary target.

(07-17-2021, 08:56 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: I’m going to need clarification Tyler.  Am I married to my past posts or to Cow in this arrangement?

(07-17-2021, 12:37 PM)chaparral Wrote: THJ and JRich combined had 3PA of 12.1 per game.  Is it important for there replacements to at leased match that 3PA of 12.1?

(07-17-2021, 12:37 PM)chaparral Wrote: THJ and JRich combined had 3PA of 12.1 per game.  Is it important for there replacements to at leased match that 3PA of 12.1?

(07-17-2021, 11:27 AM)mvossman Wrote: My offseason grades.  

If there are no major trades (including KP) then the goal should be to get two starters to replace JRich/THJ and Maxi.  Most scenarios involve operating under the cap with 34 in space.  In most cases the main choice will start roughly in low 20s to provide enough cap for second player (in parentheses) to outbid the MLE teams.  The second player is who I think fits best with the first.

Kawhi  A+
Ball (Green)  A
Conley (Noel)  A-
Collins (Jackson) B+
Powell (Batum)  B
Lowry (Noel) B-
DeRozan (Green) C+
Fournier (Green) C
THJ (Batum) C-
Dinwiddie (Barton) D

(07-17-2021, 01:06 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: I like this way of looking at it.  Too many combinations to account for all of them.  It looks like your grades are based heavily on the talent of the #1 target.

Are there any other guys similar to what you are envisioning Noel to be?  Theis?  

Is there a second option that makes Graham as the first option (at less money than the other #1’s) that gets you anything above a C?

If you got Ball or Conley and then traded for Oubre using JRich, is Oubre so bad that he drags down Ball to a C?  Same question with Dinwiddie as the second acquisition instead of the first.

Is there a fit for Holmes with KP here still or does that only work if KP is traded.