(07-12-2021, 09:22 AM)omahen Wrote: Kennard and #25

(07-12-2021, 09:12 AM)mvossman Wrote: DeRozan

(07-12-2021, 09:34 AM)Kammrath Wrote: Give me Dinwiddie every time over DeRozan.

(07-12-2021, 09:46 AM)BasketballJones41 Wrote: I don’t know where to look this up but didn’t somebody in here say that Dinwiddie’s catch and shoot numbers were actually pretty OK?

(07-12-2021, 09:56 AM)Kammrath Wrote: I think @"omahen" found that he shot 37.3% on catch and shoot threes in 19-20 and 36.8% in 18-19.

(07-12-2021, 09:22 AM)omahen Wrote: Several Maxi trade ideas:
1. Three team with GSW
GSW: Maxi; #23
Hou: #14
Dal: Looney; Paschall; #24 (if one believes Paschall will be a good rotation player). Perhaps also House from Houston

or option with NY

GSW: Maxi; #19
NY: #14, Paschall
Dal: Looney, #21

2. Similar three team trades could be constructed with Indiana, where Maxi would be great third big. J. Holiday as a basis for salary match
3. Clippers for Kennard and #25. Kennard would be a decent rotation player for Mavs, we need bench shooting.
4. SnT for THT with Lakers
5. Hield straight up - Sacramento needs cap space for Holmes. We could still have 20 mil of cap space, 23 if we add Burke to the deal

(07-12-2021, 09:34 AM)Kammrath Wrote: Give me Dinwiddie every time over DeRozan.

(07-12-2021, 10:43 AM)mvossman Wrote: Why are we trying to trade Maxi?

(07-12-2021, 11:06 AM)omahen Wrote: Why not? I can argue every proposal above is making us better. I think Maxi is extremely limited guy on offense, that teams don't really care a lot about guarding despite his 3pt%. He was playing 27 minutes per game yet managed just 5 shots per game, 4 of them were from three point land, scoring 7 ppg. He is also not that special on defense, almost 30 years old and can't really handle big minutes. That is just not good enough for a starter. Solid bench role player but nothing more, imho. Bench players can be easily replaced.

(07-12-2021, 09:30 AM)Kammrath Wrote: Super interested in this. I think Kennard would fit the Mavs needs quite a bit. Shocked I haven't seen this suggested more.

(07-12-2021, 10:59 AM)VintagePejav2 Wrote: Dinwiddie is also 38.2% on corners 3s in his career - 66/173.

(07-12-2021, 11:23 AM)Okstate819 Wrote: I wonder if everyone is inflating what Derozan will command on the open market. Are we sure that any of the cap space teams are enamored with adding DDR at 25+ million given his age and fit concerns/shooting? 

Knicks - Already have Barrett and lack of shooting next to Randle
Spurs - Very unlikely to return
OKC - zero interest at this stage of the rebuild
Tor - Maybe??
Mia - Maybe? But could see them pursuing a guard like Lowry first

I dont think its inconceivable that DDR is attainable at closer to 18-20 million per year and teams will value the Powell/Dinwiddie level of player more than DDR.

Also dont see the S&T benefit to SA for teams like the Lakers that may want to pursue him.

(07-12-2021, 11:30 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Well congratulations. That´s well below the league average of 39.4%, so as long as they also pay him below league average of $8.32M, we are good.

(07-12-2021, 09:34 AM)Kammrath Wrote: Give me Dinwiddie every time over DeRozan.

(07-12-2021, 11:20 AM)mvossman Wrote: He had a rough year this year due to being over worked and struggling with Covid and an achilles issue.  Seems like you would be selling low.  Before this year he was somebody that could protect the rim and the perimeter as well space the floor.  He could also rim run half decently as well.  I think he was miscast a little bit as a 4 starter, but has a lot of value as a 4/5 rotational player.  He fits well with both KP and Powell and given his down year I doubt other teams are going to pay much for him.

(07-12-2021, 11:42 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: DeRozan is 10x the player Dinnwiddie ever was and will be.