(07-11-2021, 10:56 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: The problem is usually Luka would sign the extension next summer, in which case the caphold would count. I don´t know what happens, when you agree to the super-max extension before next summer. Does that automatically mean the new super-max salary eliminates the caphold, although the extension itself doesn´t start until 2022/2023? Also can you basically have a handshake agreement now, but not make it official until next summer (signature) to stay at the caphold?  

That is a pretty significant question, since it´s $15M in capspace we are talking about.

(07-11-2021, 09:21 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: I’ve seen a ton of Malcolm Brogdon trades posted.  Has it been brought up that his first two seasons in Milwaukee were under Kidd.  I kind of think I’ve read that, but not positive.  Normally I’d say CAA probably wouldn’t care for the idea of Brogdon (or Conley or Graham) being traded to a team at a position one of their own (Brunson) is about to enter his contract year.  But, if Brunson is part of the outgoing in a deal for Brogdon, it probably sets up both clients for better deals when their contracts are up.

(07-11-2021, 11:47 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: It won’t be the cap hold.  Luka is agreeing to a contract this summer that will kick in next season.  It is a percentage of the cap number, so the exact amount won’t be determined until the cap is set.  You can look at Tatum from the prior year draft class and see that his 25% of the cap max is already estimated in Boston’s salaries for the 21/22 salary.  The difference is Luka gets 30% instead of 25%.

(07-11-2021, 12:40 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: What if he simply waits until next summer? Can he still sign the same deal?

(07-11-2021, 12:40 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: What if he simply waits until next summer? Can he still sign the same deal?

(07-11-2021, 01:44 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: As Mapka says, it won’t happen.  The extension he signs now guarantees $201mm.  If he waits a year, he’s guaranteed nothing.  Dallas has to offer it.  Luka is exactly what the CBA writers had in mind when they wrote this section.  I imagine someone, some day will pass on this to get out of a situation they don’t like.  But, Luka has already said it won’t be him.

(07-11-2021, 02:24 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: I´m not saying anything about not signing it, just delaying the signature by 12 months. Of course Luka can sign it now, but it puts the Mavs at a significant competitive cap disadvantage.

As people always say here: Has never happened. What also has never happened in history is an injury that prevented a player of Luka´s level to sign a (super) max contract. He could tear his ACL and Achilles at the same time, and the Mavs would still offer him the super-max the next day.

(07-11-2021, 04:35 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: I figured everyone knew this and was just being polite.

(07-11-2021, 03:43 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Well...we were being polite. For some reason, some people decided to stop being polite.

(07-11-2021, 04:35 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: I figured everyone knew this and was just being polite.  I knew the first time he called me out on a cap mistake.  The long held themes he pounds on haven't changed.

(07-11-2021, 10:02 AM)omahen Wrote: 1. Chicago is positioned to have max cap space next year even wif they extend LaVine this season. They could use a little cap relief this season to extend LaVine while keeping flexibility for 2022, but I am not really interested in their role players with Brunson, Kleber or DFS in mind and I doubt Chicago wants to spend more picks.

(07-11-2021, 09:03 PM)cjeter24 Wrote: But he used the exact phrasing Dlord has used a few times on twitter, specifically regarding Kawhi.

(07-11-2021, 10:12 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: There are ways to have capspace.

Porzingis 33.9 (reduce this salary by at least half in a trade, Harris/Bamba/pick, Turner/Lamb, Adams/Bledsoe)
Luka 25.4 (caphold, still nobody answered whether his super-max salary counts or the caphold? Anyone know?)
Powell 11.1
Kleber 9.0 (non-guaranteed)
DFS 7.6
Green 3.1
Burke 3.0
Terry 1.7

No doubt if you want to sign Lavine, you can move Kleber (non-guaranteed) + Powell (expiring) + Burke (expiring) + 1st to a team like OKC. That should be no problem at all. Two virtually firsts for 14M of Powell/Burke is a great deal.

Luka 40 (worst case, $15M more if it´s the caphold that counts)
Lavine 33
Turner 18
DFS 7.6
Green 3.1
Terry 1.7
=========
103.4

Against a projected cap of +$120M it´s possible.

(07-12-2021, 08:26 AM)omahen Wrote: Luka, Brunson
Dinwiddie, Green
DFS, rMLE
Collins, BaE
KP, Powell

(07-12-2021, 08:26 AM)omahen Wrote: Another interesting possibility. Lets assume Dinwiddie is the guy we want. Brooklyn would likely be more than ready to discuss SnT as they have very limited ways to improve their team. Assuming THJ, WCS and JRich are gone, Mavs have 34 mil of cap space. If we SnT Kleber to BKN for Dinwiddie at 17 mil we would have 25 mil left. Enough for another higher end FA. Of course a compensation from BKN would be required. They probably wouldn't have a problem taking Burke. I think Claxton wouldn't be on the table. A "wink wink" agreement for #27 pick (basically Mavs tell BKN who to pick) and a future second rounder? 

You do this kind of deal only if you know why you need roughly 25 mil of cap space. Collins, for example.

Luka, Brunson
Dinwiddie, Green
DFS, rMLE
Collins, BaE
KP, Powell

(07-12-2021, 08:31 AM)Kammrath Wrote: You have my attention.

(07-12-2021, 08:44 AM)mvossman Wrote: we better not trade Maxi for him.

(07-12-2021, 08:44 AM)mvossman Wrote: I would rather just get DeRozan who is an elite shot creator.

(07-12-2021, 08:48 AM)Okstate819 Wrote: Replace Din with Norm Powell in this scenario and I agree.

(07-12-2021, 08:51 AM)omahen Wrote: Maxi was not traded for Dinwiddie, I thought that was clear. He was traded for asset(s) and cap space. 


DeRozan would cost roughly 25 mil and I don't see SA doing SnT. I fail to see how DeRozan and 9 mil of cap space is better than Dinwiddie+asset minus Maxi and 25 mil of cap space. If you think Collins is impossible, you can look at other players or combinations of them for 25 mil.