(07-02-2021, 01:59 PM)cow Wrote: I just wouldn't give up TT and another second round pick for Will Barton in that swap.

(07-02-2021, 01:25 PM)cow Wrote: Rick, Donnie and Mark were a problem recruiting free agents certainly.  But I don't think we should be getting our hopes up for Dame (he's not leaving Portland yet) or Leonard (he's not coming back to Texas).  If we want to go back to big game fishing, we should at least keep it in the realm of reality.

I'll keep my expectations at the level of THT or Holmes.

(07-02-2021, 01:24 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I would do this trade every time no questions asked.

Clarkson is the bench scorer we need. Favors provides a steady vet big that can replace Powell. 30th pick is a plus.

I love Maxi and he's a great piece but Clarkson out values him alone. Favors and the 30th is a grand-slam return for JRich.

(07-02-2021, 03:33 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: a decent post player

(07-02-2021, 03:33 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: I have no idea why Utah would give us one of their super sixth men

(07-02-2021, 02:52 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: I think you're also overlooking a massive factor in how we used to do Plan Powder as well, and that's the star we're trying to sell.  

The height of plan powder occurred during the twilight of Dirk's career. Hard to get excited playing with a 35 year old Dirk, an incomplete roster with an A-hole coach, and no concrete plan given by the GM if you're the premier talent of the NBA. 

Sure to us Dirk was still incredibly effective and any other star could've vaunted the Mavs then to legit contender status, but the hesitation in knowing how good the Mavs could be was enough to be the final nail in the proverbial coffin in deterring any free agents that already got past all the deficiencies in the Mavs pitch. 

Now, the Mavs have arguably the best 22 year old player ever. He put up stats for a player his age that we haven't seen since Jordan. There is no selling Luka, because people who need to be convinced aren't watching.  Stars see him. They see how good he is and he isn't even in his prime. 

If I was Kawhi and I had to choose between hitching my horse to Paul George or Luka I know exactly who I'd pick.

I think plan powder 2.0 has nailed all the key aspects we were missing the first time around. I hope it yields different results.

(07-02-2021, 03:44 PM)omahen Wrote: JRich for Favors and #30 is a fair deal. I am not really sure Kleber equals Clarkson value.

(07-02-2021, 05:07 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: How odd.  Two JRich mentions in the same day.  I was listening to Hardwood Knocks and they were talking about Portland.  Focus was on getting some D in a trade for McCollum.  Maybe that's Simmons or maybe that's a defense oriented big.  The question was whether you could replace McCollum's production with Anfernee and Powell and they said something about JRich for Nurkic to provide a little D in the back court.  They then quickly clarified the 19/20 version of JRich and then further clarified that maybe it needs to be the 18/19 version.  Just thought it was interesting.

(07-02-2021, 05:07 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: How odd.  Two JRich mentions in the same day.  I was listening to Hardwood Knocks and they were talking about Portland.  Focus was on getting some D in a trade for McCollum.  Maybe that's Simmons or maybe that's a defense oriented big.  The question was whether you could replace McCollum's production with Anfernee and Powell and they said something about JRich for Nurkic to provide a little D in the back court.  They then quickly clarified the 19/20 version of JRich and then further clarified that maybe it needs to be the 18/19 version.  Just thought it was interesting.

(07-02-2021, 05:23 PM)omahen Wrote: Nance

(07-02-2021, 06:24 PM)Jommybone Wrote: Ben Simmons as PF in Dallas? I’m in. Trade whatever it takes to get him.

Ben Simmons as a secondary playmaker? If that’s what he wants to be, no thanks. 

(07-02-2021, 01:25 PM)cow Wrote: I've said this for as long as I've been on our multiple board systems.  People wrote it off as "friends of Rondo" being spiteful.   This certainly isn't a new revelation.

Rick, Donnie and Mark were a problem recruiting free agents certainly.  But I don't think we should be getting our hopes up for Dame (he's not leaving Portland yet) or Leonard (he's not coming back to Texas).  If we want to go back to big game fishing, we should at least keep it in the realm of reality.

I'll keep my expectations at the level of THT or Holmes.

(07-02-2021, 06:41 PM)mvossman Wrote: If they are willing to trade KP, Hayward is a reasonable possibility as well

(07-02-2021, 12:51 PM)Kammrath Wrote: I would personally throw the whole kitchen sink in toward acquiring Ben Simmons. I think he and Luka are an ELITE pairing that you could build around in a billion different ways. 

GET BEN!!!

(07-02-2021, 06:41 PM)mvossman Wrote: There is absolutely no chance of Dame, and Leonard is highly unlikely.  By guys like THT or Holmes are not big enough names.  They are not "stars".  The most likely get is DeRozan, but Ball, Conley and Lowry are not out of the realm of reality.  If they are willing to trade KP, Hayward is a reasonable possibility as well (I have a hard time believing Portland would give up CJ for KP).