(06-26-2021, 11:04 PM)Mavs03 Wrote: On the very small chance that Kawhi leaves the Clippers, would Dallas be the #1 option?  If J-Rich opts out, we would have $34.4 million in cap space.  I believe we're a Trey Burke for air trade away from getting to the max which shouldn't be hard.  Would we still have the full MLE or just rMLE if we sign Kawhi outright into our cap space?

(06-26-2021, 09:11 PM)Kammrath Wrote: That or Mitchell Robinson....if he is healthy, he is a great big to team with Luka.

(06-26-2021, 10:53 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: I keep playing in my mind Conley vs. Derozan.  I think going down the Lowry route is a bad decision.   I really like his fit here but he is a little older.   More importantly, I think Miami and Philly have been laying the groundwork there for awhile.   I expect he winds up in one of those two in a sign and trade.

I think Derozan is better than Conley, but Conley is the easier fit.  In addition, I think there is a chance you can interest Utah in a sign and trade.  Would they have interest in Richardson plus Maxi?  Those would be two good rotation players for them (If Richardson improves from this past season).    If that is the case, then you would have money to resign Hardaway.   Or do you let Hardaway go and sign Holmes plus Josh Hart (or another wing player)?   I am still leading towards Derozan, but my opinion could change.  If Derozan is at 30Plus million, that may be too tough for me to swallow.    

I need to think more if Holmes can play with KP, or will teams just put their PF on KP like we saw in the playoffs and attack whoever guards a wing?   I am intrigued with using both as ATL uses Capela and Collins, but need to think more about it.

(06-26-2021, 01:11 PM)Scott41theMavs Wrote: Trade KP for air and you have the money to go after both. Bye-bye THJ and the full MLE if you go that route, but you might be able to pick up some nice players on tiny deals or trade some of our other, more expendable guys for good players. Brunson for Robinson? 

Luka
Lonzo
DFS
Collins
Robinson

Looks like a stout starting lineup to me. To be filled out with vet min guys, rMLE, BAE (think you have that regardless of cap room use), and whatever is left after trades etc. 

Note: That's a full-on pipe dream, because I don't think Ball wants to come here (although if we're the only ones willing to max him out, he probably would), and I doubt both that the Hawks would let Collins go and that he would want to leave. In any event, you're looking at three young players at $90 mil a year. Better get the supporting cast right.

(06-27-2021, 08:48 AM)Pollyanna Blues Wrote: I'd love to see us pick up Ball and Collins especially if we could grab Mitchell Robinson as well.  

Also, now that RC is in Indy, could we possibly have a better chance at Turner/Warren?

(06-27-2021, 11:49 AM)mvossman Wrote: I would think Rick in Indy makes it less likely we have a shot at Turner.

(06-27-2021, 12:11 PM)omahen Wrote: is there any Mav player that Carlisle would love to have? 

(06-27-2021, 11:49 AM)mvossman Wrote: I would think Rick in Indy makes it less likely we have a shot at Turner.

(06-27-2021, 12:11 PM)omahen Wrote: The interesting question for me is - is there any Mav player that Carlisle would love to have? That could be a basis for a trade

(06-27-2021, 12:33 PM)Tyler Wrote: DFS?

(06-27-2021, 12:11 PM)omahen Wrote: The interesting question for me is - is there any Mav player that Carlisle would love to have? That could be a basis for a trade

(06-27-2021, 11:49 AM)mvossman Wrote: You are probably burning at least Maxi and Brunson to get Collins and Lonzo, which means you would have enough cap space to get a center ready for prime time like a Holmes.  That team is ready to go, no need to go with a project at center.

To be honest, I think I would prefer Maxi next to Collins than a true center (assuming he gets back to what he was pre Covid).  That gives you the versatility to go 5 out and gives Collins the room to operate in the paint when desired.  I think a 3 man rotation of Collins, Theis and Maxi would be good enough defensively and provide a lot of options offensively.

Of course it is a total pipe dream.  I would be jacked just to get Ball.

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I would think Rick in Indy makes it less likely we have a shot at Turner.

(06-27-2021, 01:47 PM)DallasBasketball Wrote: Not sure about the salary cap implications but if it’s Hardaway vs DeRozen vs Conley that’s actually a tough decision for me. 

I go with Conley over Derozen for 2 simple reasons.

1. Conley is an excellent 3 point shooter as opposed to DeRozen and will enhance Luka while on the floor. 

2. The team is built around Luka and will most likely be filled with 3 point shooters. Conley can run a pick and roll inside-out offense when Luka sits. 

Also with Conley, Brunson could be traded for another asset. 

I also like DeRozen and think he’s a bucket getter. If you feel getting buckets and size is more important than 3 point shooting and running the offense than DeRozen becomes more of a higher option.

(06-26-2021, 10:53 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: I need to think more if Holmes can play with KP, or will teams just put their PF on KP like we saw in the playoffs and attack whoever guards a wing?   I am intrigued with using both as ATL uses Capela and Collins, but need to think more about it.

(06-27-2021, 08:48 PM)mvossman Wrote: I'm of the mind that you do not want to put a true center with KP.  Guys like Powell or Maxi work ok because they can guard the perimeter to some degree.  Collins would be a good fit as well.  Don't think you want Holmes guarding the perimeter, and you definitely don't want KP doing that.

Honestly, if KP can't get back to his rim protecting ways, or he is unwilling to run pick and role when the situation calls for it (he was actually effective the rare times he did it) then he will never be worth near that contract and we need to move on.

(06-27-2021, 04:37 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: Conley will probably stay with Utah unless you ovepray him and he is kind of a stop-gap being as old as he is. I would rather have DeRozan who is younger (31 v 33) and isn't injured a lot like Conley. I agree that Conley's on-court fit is good but I think have 2 guys as talented as DMR and Luka would solve more problems than they create. DMR has such a high floor I think you could trade him pretty easily if the fit isn't there.

A lot of people bring up spacing issues with DMR because he doesn't shoot 3's but I think those concerns are over-stated. There are real space-problem players like a WCS player who you totally don't respect beyond 2 feet from the basket.

A guy like DMR attracts gravity, just like good shooters including much maligned KP who does stretch the floor. Luka himself creates a ton of gravity because you have 4/5 defenders needing to have eyes on him when he has the ball. Having a 2nd guy like DMR running around (hopefully he would move without the ball) could on paper cause a lot of havoc defensively. Luka doesn't do a lot of off-ball stuff but his defender will always stay home on him bc he is so dangerous as a shooter and playmaker.

I haven't watched DMR enough off-ball to know what he does but I imagine they would try to put him in advantageous positions to make the defense scramble.