(06-25-2021, 08:27 PM)Aussiebballer Wrote: I can see them thinking he can be an off ball scorer with Luka and then the main play initiator when Luka rests.

(06-25-2021, 08:33 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Yes, that's the only reason to do it. If you don't want him for that, you look elsewhere. 

LIKE IN PHILLY FOR BEN SIMMONS!!!!!!

(06-25-2021, 08:37 PM)Branduil Wrote: Do the Sexton trade, trade Maxi+JRich+Brunson for Collins, re-sign THJ, sign an Olynyk or Theis type with the MLE and a vet PG with the BAE.

Luka / ? / Terry
Sexton / THJ / Burke
DFS / Green
Collins / Powell / Bey
Olynyk / Love / WCS

(06-25-2021, 08:18 PM)DallasBasketball Wrote: Trade idea by Sam Amico - have y’all already discussed this?

To Cleveland
- KP
- 2nd rounder

To Dallas
- Colin Sexton
- Kevin Love

Cleveland does this (according to him) bc they are out on Love and Sexton isn’t ‘the guy’ and they have the #3 pick to draft the guy so they won’t be signing Sexton.

Dallas does this for sexton as a 6th man role/2nd ball handler and Love as a player rehab in our system.

I didn’t like it at first but the more I think about it it’s not bad.

(06-25-2021, 09:42 PM)cjeter24 Wrote: Possible Dame trade 

(06-25-2021, 09:50 PM)khaled1987 Wrote: Honestly,  I highly doubt that Dame would want to come here.
He basically found out the coach he publicly endorsed has passed on the opportunity in order to coach Luka, causing a sort of embarrassment in the process. 

I highly doubt he would want to go to Dallas now, it is the opposite

(06-25-2021, 09:50 PM)khaled1987 Wrote: Honestly,  I highly doubt that Dame would want to come here.
He basically found out the coach he publicly endorsed has passed on the opportunity in order to coach Luka, causing a sort of embarrassment in the process. 

I highly doubt he would want to go to Dallas now, it is the opposite

(06-25-2021, 05:17 PM)omahen Wrote: Another thing about this - looks like Timmy will not stay with us

(06-25-2021, 08:37 PM)Branduil Wrote: Do the Sexton trade, trade Maxi+JRich+Brunson for Collins, re-sign THJ, sign an Olynyk or Theis type with the MLE and a vet PG with the BAE.

Luka / ? / Terry
Sexton / THJ / Burke
DFS / Green
Collins / Powell / Bey
Olynyk / Love / WCS

(06-25-2021, 09:22 PM)cjeter24 Wrote: I posted this on another thread... But the real appeal of doing a Sexton trade is that you can trade him at the deadline for "more". 
KP has some value but it's not significant. I think a really good scorer like Sexton who is still on a rookie deal (although you got to pay him next year) is a very attractive piece. If you do have to pay him the max, his cap hold is quite a bit less so there's some appeal on that angle. 

It would be easy to send the 2022 1st out in a draft night trade to dump love as well next summer.

(06-25-2021, 11:54 PM)mvossman Wrote:  
There has been a lot of talk about these playoffs showing that offense is more important than defense, yet the only team left that is not a top 10 defense is Atlanta (who just got trucked by 40).  The top three teams in defense were all legit contenders that got bounced early due to injuries.  History has shown that it is nearly impossible to win a championship without a good defense.  It just can't be ignored.

(06-26-2021, 09:55 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: So, we need a top 10 defense.  We need another shot creator.  We need rebounding.  We need a second star. We need trade assets.  We need better depth.  

You are right BTW.  Part of that could be solved by addition.  But, it may also take subtraction of the worst defenders (most of whom are good offensive players).  To me, the question is whether this summer is about accumulating assets or will they try to take a big swing now while they “may” have cap room.

(06-26-2021, 10:34 AM)mvossman Wrote: I think they almost have to take the big swing due to limited cap space in future and they just hired a GM and coach specifically for bringing in free agents (it seems).

If you don't move KP, then your big splash to improve both shot creator and defense is to bring in Lowry or Conley.  THJ is gone if you do that, but you may still have enough to bring in a 3&D guy like Green (would be ironic if we finally get Green after Nelson leaves).  If you assume KP defensive issues were coming back from injury early related and he will get back to his old self with a healthy off season, then a lineup of KP/DFS/Luka/Green/Lowry would be contender worthy (if Lowry doesn't fall off a cliff).

Another option would be to land Ball.  He is not true shot creation, but his transition playmaking, BB IQ and passing ability would be a big help offensively and he is a good point of attack defender.  He would be a better version of what we were hoping to get from JRich.  If we had him this year instead of JRich, I think we are still playing and legit contenders.

If we are dumping KP, then my favorite play would be a Hayward trade.  Then you get Holmes for your anchor and Powell (or Ball) for your point of attach defender who can shoot.  Is Holmes/DFS/Hayward/Luka/Powell a contender?  I think it could be.

Another option if our big free agent is DeRozan, maybe you work a trade with Spurs for a DeRozan for KP S&T.  Maybe we get some additional value out of that.  Then you go the same route as above.  Is Holmes/DFS/DeRozan/Luka/Powell a contender.  I question if the defense is good enough.

Those are some pathways that I think are not crazy unreasonable that would address our biggest weaknesses.  Honestly if we could pull any of these off (with the possible exception of DeRozan) I would feel really good about our chances with Rick as coach.  I have a lot less confidence in what Kidd can do, but maybe we needed this GM/Coach move in order to execute a move like above.

(06-26-2021, 12:42 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: With Kidd as the new headcoach I am coming back to the Lonzo Ball discussion. Kidd has been his go to comparisation since he entered the league. Ballhandling, passing, rebounding and defense wiith questionable scoring ability. His shooting is already better than Kidd´s ever was. Can Kidd unlock Lonzo and turn the good/above average starter into a legit top two/three player on a contender?