(06-07-2021, 12:32 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: Can't argue with any of this logic. It makes a lot of sense. I just can't imagine that having that family connected with this team would be a good thing. Maybe I'm making too much of that, but I actually am one of the people around here who believes in the Mavs' culture stuff. I think it's one of the few things they've done mostly right over the past 20 years. 

And, while I'm with you about the player description you laid out seeming like the perfect fit next to Luka, we somehow need to reconcile the fact that the Mavs tried two players like that during the last two years - first, Delon Wright, then Josh Richardson. In both cases, it eventually became clear that the team was better off with Hardaway, a pure shooter, in that spot instead. How do we make sense of that? Are Wright and Richardson not good enough examples of that type? I mean, it would be GREAT if Hardaway was also a lockdown defender and not just an adequate one, but THAT guy would be a MAX player - a STAR.

I think this is a difficult thing to figure out, especially given how many people's biggest criticism is the offense. It's almost as if the Mavs need TWO starting guards next to Luka, and Luka needs to be the 3, in name and practice both. I know @"omahen" tends to look at things from that angle, and he might be right.

(06-07-2021, 06:20 PM)fifteenth Wrote: Rick's constant praise of KP and Donnie's praise of him makes me think they want to trade him.

(06-08-2021, 04:14 AM)Branduil Wrote:  a secondary playmaker who can create his own shot. Lonzo doesn't fix that problem, he's a horrible scorer who can only hit wide-open threes. His 2PT% is disastrous and let's not even talk about his FT%.

(06-08-2021, 04:14 AM)Branduil Wrote: I really do not get the Lonzo love. Someone suggested $25 mil per year, which is beyond insane to me.

Like the biggest flaw with this Mavs team is the lack of a secondary playmaker who can create his own shot. Lonzo doesn't fix that problem, he's a horrible scorer who can only hit wide-open threes. His 2PT% is disastrous and let's not even talk about his FT%.

Shouldn't the fact that N.O. doesn't want him be a huge red flag? It's not like they're swimming in quality point guards to replace him.

(06-08-2021, 07:23 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote:  He's not much more than a C&S three point shooter who happens to pass the ball well.  

(06-08-2021, 08:08 AM)omahen Wrote: Ntilikina

(06-08-2021, 07:23 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: I was once high on Lonzo, but I'm off the train.  It isn't his FT%, it is his FT Attempts.  He avoids contact like the plague.  He's not much more than a C&S three point shooter who happens to pass the ball well.  We already move the ball just fine.  As you say, the issue is someone who can create for themselves and others and Lonzo isn't that guy in terms of creating for himself.

(06-08-2021, 08:08 AM)omahen Wrote: - we have the eternal Ntilikina debate and he will finally be available, probably for vet min. Brunson-Ntilikina might be a decent bench pair

(06-08-2021, 11:07 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: It´s honestly not some sort of witchcraft to trade Porzingis. You just have to be realistic.



Last summer the Pacers were willing to trade Myles Turner for Gordon Hayward on a max contract, who came off a nerve-damage injury to his leg. So we have almost a perfect match on what kind of player value the Pacers attach to Myles Turner. Now all you need to do is find a trade partner interested in Porzingis. Washington is clearly that.

Turner/Lamb to Dallas
Porzingis to Washington
Bertans/Gafford/Avdija/15th pick to Indiana.

IT IS DONE. No drama.

Sign(& trade) Markkanen.

You try and collude with Duffy on Lavine THIS SUMMER and you have the complete roster overhaul for 2022.

If Lavine does not give you good vibes for 2022, you offer the Pelicans a THJ for Lonzo S&T and threaten them with a big offer.

Doncic
Lavine or Ball
DFS
Markkanen
Turner

And that is a YOUNG re-tradeable ROSTER.

(06-08-2021, 11:07 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: It´s honestly not some sort of witchcraft to trade Porzingis. You just have to be realistic.



Last summer the Pacers were willing to trade Myles Turner for Gordon Hayward on a max contract, who came off a nerve-damage injury to his leg. So we have almost a perfect match on what kind of player value the Pacers attach to Myles Turner. Now all you need to do is find a trade partner interested in Porzingis. Washington is clearly that.

Turner/Lamb to Dallas
Porzingis to Washington
Bertans/Gafford/Avdija/15th pick to Indiana.

IT IS DONE. No drama.

Sign(& trade) Markkanen.

You try and collude with Duffy on Lavine THIS SUMMER and you have the complete roster overhaul for 2022.

If Lavine does not give you good vibes for 2022, you offer the Pelicans a THJ for Lonzo S&T and threaten them with a big offer.

Doncic
Lavine or Ball
DFS
Markkanen
Turner

And that is a YOUNG re-tradeable ROSTER.

(06-08-2021, 11:51 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Brogdon/THJ/DFS/Luka/Turner starting is good enough. Hopefully we’re paying THJ no more than $15M so that when we find his better, more defensive minded replacement, he can come off the bench and play the JET role.

(06-08-2021, 05:48 AM)Branduil Wrote: Anyway, I think we should keep our eyes on Milwaukee. If they flame out yet again there's going to be massive pressure to make changes- they'll fire Coach Bud at least, and probably look to change the team. The "idea" of KP would surely be a perfect fit with Giannis as well... Lopez is getting older and slower, and his shooting has gone down. If we could manage to get Middleton with something like KP+Brunson that would be a steal.

(06-08-2021, 12:01 PM)jesusshuttlesworth82 Wrote: 1) I think they fire Bud and run it back.
2) Even if they want to make changes to get them over the hump, I dont see any way KP enters the picture.