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RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace | FA starts Aug 2, 5 pm - omahen - 06-07-2021

Below is a depth chart of Mavs summer roster based on a position they play on defense. I didn't include any free agents to be other than the two way players. At this point I will assume KP stays, as it simplifies situation a bit. Trading him provides million possibilities and I just don't have any input at this point that would reduce number of possibilities.


          1              2              3             4
PG      X          Brunson     Burke       Terry
SG     DFS            X          Green       Hinton
SF     Luka           X              X             X
PF       X           Maxi          Bey            X
C        KP          Powell

I think we lack starting guard that defends opponent point of offense, can create at least a little and shoots reasonably well. We also need a starting PF or big wing. Has to be a defender and shooter and if possible create for himself. I have absolutely no problem trading any of the guys under 2 if we can get a guy under 1, as I think we can get adequate back ups for rMLE, BaU or even vet min. Green is the only guy in column "3" I would be semi comfortable promoting to column "2". 

First big question is, can we survive with a weak defender on any of those open spots in the first column? I am sceptical, but guys that are both good on defense and offense are just not available. So, where is the guarantee we will not just get ourselves into another WrighT/Rich situation?

Second question is, if THJ is the guy we can put on first place at PG? Sure he had a great playoff run, Mavs offense is really sad without him. But he doesn't create, can't do much other than spot up shooting and his defense is suspect, although I was pleasantly surprised with his performance in playoffs. Still, I just don't see him there. I see him in the second culomn of SG and SF position, but his salary might be a problem to realize that, if we want upgrade at PG and PF. Can we SnT him somewhere?

Smart could be great for that "PG1" spot, but I am seriously affraid offense would remain a total all Luka show, unless we can get a PF who can create for himself. But is there one available? Could we survive with a smaller PF, like DeRozan in this case, again sacrificing defense? Sorry, but for positions PG and PF in column 1 I only have a lot of questions and dilemmas, but not many answers. 

I guess it is much easier to get players in the second column (third and fourth column are vet min and 2-way guys imho). I think the past has shown that those guys have to be able to shoot the ball or there will be very limited opportunity for them. They probably also need to play defense. I guess there are several interesting options to be had for rMLE at most, hopefully even BaE. New Yorks Burks (rMLE) and Bullock (BaE) would be great options at SG and SF column 2. Batum, Tucker, Bazemore, Temple, Craig, Niang should all be available for exception money. Cheap back up PG in case Brunson is traded is more difficult. Cam Payne, Neto, Rivers? McConnel or Mills might be pipedream for rMLE.


RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace | FA starts Aug 2, 5 pm - omahen - 06-07-2021

Good piece by Tjarks. 

https://www.theringer.com/2021/6/7/22522190/luka-doncic-dallas-mavericks


RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace | FA starts Aug 2, 5 pm - DanSchwartzgan - 06-07-2021

(06-07-2021, 01:31 AM)TurkishMFFL Wrote: I am not really sure if moving Porzee would be the right thing. He did not have a preseason camp with the team since he arrived here. He didn’t even play in the first games of both seasons, through which the team gels and gets a chemistry.

He will be healthy this summer for the first time. He can get a much better preparation. He could could also be a better player with a defensive minded big next to him, which will give him more space and flexibility. On the other hand, I am not sure whether Rick did him any good for his play but this year in the preseason many things can change.

He is still only 25 and is it now really the good time to put him in the trade market when his value is not that high?

I still believe he can be a much better player for this team.


If one is on the "Trade KP" bandwagon, the question is who would pursue him and for what offer.  The return fills a hole or holes and you use remaining cap space to do the rest.  The player(s) you get in return won't live up to the "idea" of KP.  The question is whether you can improve upon the "reality" of KP.  Despite a ton of holes and issues, this team is one of about six vying for the top four spots in the West.  I'd contend one more real NBA starter level guy would have had us playing in Utah yesterday instead of LA.

If one is on the "Keep KP" bandwagon, the fundamental question is what do you put next to him that makes him work.  Is it a "better version of Powell" like Holmes.  Is it some kind of a blend between Maxi and DFS (can stand in the corner and hit threes but is more mobile than Maxi with more size than DFS)?  How do you provide the mobility to help when KP is playing drop coverage in the PnR while at the same time providing rebounding and rim protection on the back side when he's dragged away from the basket?  

In other words, the big next to KP has to be able to handle AD when he backs him down and protect the rim when Lillard goes around KP in the PnR.  AND he has to hit open 3's in the corner because KP wants to play above the break at the offensive end.  I'm not arguing against your position.  Just pointing out that it takes a pretty special player to do all of these things.  The decision tree can't just be about KP.  It has to also include what else happens depending on which way you go.  You can argue that KP has to go, but if the available deals are crap, then that didn't help you.  You can argue KP has to stay, but if you can't find the right guy to pair with him, then you are right back where you are now.


RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace | FA starts Aug 2, 5 pm - DanSchwartzgan - 06-07-2021

(06-07-2021, 07:31 AM)omahen Wrote: Below is a depth chart of Mavs summer roster based on a position they play on defense. I didn't include any free agents to be other than the two way players. At this point I will assume KP stays, as it simplifies situation a bit. Trading him provides million possibilities and I just don't have any input at this point that would reduce number of possibilities.


          1              2              
PG      X          Brunson      
SG     DFS            X           
SF     Luka           X              
 

I think we lack starting guard that defends opponent point of offense, can create at least a little and shoots reasonably well.  

I think this whole thing is well put.  We've tried for two summers to get a guy who can handle the point of attack defensively, but neither has been able to work in our system offensively.  What we need is Drew Holiday...without it actually being Drew Holiday.  Get me that guy and I bet we can make the rest of this work.


RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace | FA starts Aug 2, 5 pm - omahen - 06-07-2021

(06-07-2021, 07:53 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Is it a "better version of Powell" like Holmes. 


Thinking a lot about this. Two things to consider:
- basically all centers have huge defensive problems and are being attacked continously in the playoffs. It will be interesting to see how Utah will be able to defend Clippers small ball
- Mavs were only able to run PnR against Zubac. Will we really be able to utilize Holmes (or similar centre) at full extent or will he just clogg the paint?

I think the gravity KP provides is underestimated. But of course if he stays, the main question is - how he can be efficiently involved on the offense? It sure looks like Luka and coach have given up on that.


RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace | FA starts Aug 2, 5 pm - Chicagojk - 06-07-2021

I have so many thoughts and they are all muddled right now.   I think where i am at now, is the Mavs can't try to improve around the edges.  They can't think they are one final piece and this team is a championship contender.  They need to go big game hunting.  Find the best talent...even if it is not the best fit.   If Luka and Rick are as good as we hope, they can figure it out.  If not, you have a attractive asset.   With the trouble over the last two offseasons, they probably will not have a championship level team next year and that would put them behind schedule on my timeline (but I will reserve my right after the summer).   But can they improve where they are in the next tier of teams with flexibility and attractive assets to make that final move in time?

What is big game hunting?  That gets tricky.    Can you go big game hunting if you resign Hardaway?   Are the restrictive free agents even legit targets?  Is it best to sell low on KP now or take a more long range view?   If Brunson cannot get and earn 30 minutes a night he is probably not a long term player here, so does that change your plan for this summer?


RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace | FA starts Aug 2, 5 pm - omahen - 06-07-2021

(06-07-2021, 07:59 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Get me that guy and I bet we can make the rest of this work.


Looking at FA, one of the elder statesmen (CP3, Conley, Lowry) are the only realistic options that have what we need. Having the 2024 outlook in mind, why not give it a go, especially if we could resign THJ in the process? Of couse if any of them would actually even want to come, which I doubt a lot. 

Schroeder? Ball? Both have plenty of negatives to talk about. Graham perhaps? Really didn't see him enough to judge his defense.


RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace | FA starts Aug 2, 5 pm - omahen - 06-07-2021

(06-07-2021, 08:11 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: If Luka and Rick are as good as we hope, they can figure it out.


KP might have a comment or two about this statement Smile 


(06-07-2021, 08:11 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: If not, you have a attractive asset. 


Or not, as KP case might show Smile 

Just making some jokes, not making fun of you. I basically have same dilemmas and my mind is providing different "solutions" every time I think about it. Right now I like two options moving forward:
1. Forget stars. Put good players around Luka who can defend and shoot. Hope they will be able to help more than the current ones have
2. Add a semi star on a three year contract, resign THJ if possible. Wait 3 years for Luka to mature and gain experience.

I watched Atlanta yesterday and that is something completely different. When Young gets double teamed Huerter, Bogi, Gallo, Collins can all put it on the floor and attack. Leading to either layups or wide open shots. Same with Clippers. Mavs role players are basically limited to catch and shoot.


RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace | FA starts Aug 2, 5 pm - Chicagojk - 06-07-2021

Hopefully this looks ok

Offseason moves for the Dallas Mavericks: How to build a contender around Luka Doncic
6:13 AM Bobby Marks
[color=var(--newCommunityTheme-linkText)]https://tv5.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/31574554/offseason-moves-dallas-mavericks-how-build-contender-luka-doncic[/color]
For the Dallas Mavericks, last year's loss to the LA Clippers in the first round of the NBA playoffs in the bubble brought a sense of achievement and hope for the future. However, this year's loss despite coming in seven games rather than six, has the feeling of disappointment. Dallas was up 3-2 in the series and couldn't close things out, and now the Mavericks are at a crossroads with their roster.
While they have a franchise player in Luka Doncic, there are questions about whether the rest of the roster is enough for Dallas to take the next step.
This offseason will see the Mavericks focus on Doncic's rookie extension, deciding between re-signing Tim Hardaway Jr. or creating cap space, and the uncertain future of Kristaps Porzingis.
Luka's max extension The Mavericks face many questions this offseason. Doncic's rookie extension is not one of them. Doncic is set to become the first player in league history to sign a rookie extension that exceeds $200 million. Because Doncic was named All-NBA in 2019-20 and is a virtual lock to earn the honor again this year, he'll meet the All-NBA criteria necessary to sign a five-year max extension worth 30% of the salary cap in 2022-23.
2022-23 | $34.7M
2023-24 | $37.5M
2024-25 | $40.3M
2025-26 | $43.1M
2026-27 | $45.9M
The $201.5 million projection could increase if the business of basketball reverts back to normalcy pre-COVID-19, and cap levels rise more than the projected 3% for the 2022-23 season.
The lone sticking point that Bill Duffy, his agent from BDA Sports, and the Mavericks will have to sort out is whether Doncic will have a player option in 2026-27. While the player option seems irrelevant now, including it in the contract gives Doncic a way out if the Mavericks do not build a championship roster around him in the foreseeable future. Considering that the Mavericks have little to no leverage in the negotiations, expect it to be included in the extension.
Once Doncic signs the extension, the Mavericks will be prevented from trading him in 2021-22, not that they'd look to do so. However, the Dallas front office cannot rest solely on the fact that Doncic is under contract through 2026-27. The clock now starts for them to put together a roster that has more than a first-round ceiling.
"Every summer has the same pressures to add to the team," GM Donnie Nelson told mavs.com in late March. "Look at where we are, we certainly like a lot of the pieces. We got to give ourselves a chance to see what we have. Anyone that plays next to Luka seems to take an uptick and I think that's going to bode well for us this summer in terms of the kind of attractiveness to this style of play, a championship coach, and Mark [Cuban]."
Tim Hardaway Jr.
When the Mavericks traded for Kristaps Porzingis in 2019, the inclusion of Tim Hardaway Jr. was seen as a salary dump from the New York Knicks' end. Few predicted that Hardaway would end up being the better contributor on the court.
At the time of the trade, Hardaway was shooting a career-low 38.8% from the field. Over parts of four seasons in two stints with the Knicks, he'd averaged 13.8 points per game and shot 40.7% overall. When he was acquired in January 2019, the guard was underperforming his $17.3 million contract by $5 million, according to ProFitX, and had more than $50 million left on the deal.
Now 32 months later, it is Hardaway, not Porzingis, who has turned into the Mavericks' most valuable player outside of Doncic. Besides being durable (he only missed two games this season), Hardaway is the rare player who excels either coming off the bench as a sixth man or as a starter.
"With Tim, the proof is in a sample size of well over a year," coach Rick Carlisle told mavs.com. "When he was starting last year, he had a great flow. He started early this year and we made the change to go to more of a defensive lineup and bring him off the bench because we were really struggling with defense. "He was willing to do it. That's one reason that I'm willing to make other changes in the lineup, when you have a guy like him who's one of your top players willing to do it."
In the first-round loss to the Clippers, Hardaway started all seven games, averaging 17 points and shooting 40% from three. Not bad for a player who was a throw-in back in 2019.
Now entering the offseason, the Mavericks and Hardaway have a decision to make regarding the future. Because of Hardaway's $28.6 million free agent cap hold, Dallas enters the summer over the salary cap despite having only $85.1 million in guaranteed contracts.
While it is highly unlikely that Hardaway will see a contract that resembles his cap hold from Dallas or a team with cap space, the guard has a salary projection that ranges from low of $15 million to a high of $18 million, according to ProFitX.
A starting salary in the $18 million range would put the Mavericks right at the salary cap and left with the $9.5 million midlevel and $3.8 million biannual exceptions to use in free agency.
Dallas could create up to $20 million in room while still re-signing Hardaway, but that would require the Mavericks to decline the team option on Willie Cauley-Stein and have Josh Richardson decline his player option (or be traded in the offseason after picking it up). With Doncic's salary increasing from $11.1 million in 2021-22 to $34.7 million in 2022-23, the window for Dallas to use cap space on players outside of their own is closing.
Of course, Dallas could have more than $35 million in room, but that would come at the expense of Hardaway, Richardson and Cauley-Stein.
Jalen Brunson
The Mavericks took an unorthodox approach when they signed Brunson to a four-year contract after he was drafted in 2018. Because the contract does not contain a team option for 2021-22, the Mavericks are at risk of Brunson playing out the contract and becoming an unrestricted free agent next offseason.
The inclusion of a team option would have allowed Dallas to decline the option and make Brunson a restricted free agent this offseason. Brunson's cap hold in that scenario would've been just $2.1 million, and the Mavericks could've re-signed him to a longer deal or matched any offer he received from another team. Instead, because his unrestricted free-agent status hangs over the organization, Brunson has leverage as it relates to the maximum allowed in an extension.
Brunson is coming off a season where he averaged a career high in minutes (25.0), points (12.6), field goal percentage (52.3%) and 3-point percentage (40.5%). Per Cleaning the Glass, Brunson ranked in the 97th percentile of all players in points per shot attempt. As Zach Lowe wrote in late February, you could make the argument that Brunson was, at times this season, the Mavericks second-best player.
The Mavericks clearly dropped the ball in 2018 when they structured his contract but could get a mulligan this offseason.
Dallas can offer the guard a four-year, $55 million extension (the maximum allowed) on the first day of free agency, eliminating the threat of him becoming an unrestricted free agent. According to ProFitX, the projected salary in 2022-23 for Brunson is $12.8 million -- comparable to the starting salary in an extension.
Brunson also has reached the third-year anniversary of his contract, allowing the Mavericks to renegotiate his $1.8 million salary for 2021-22. However, that would require Dallas to take away valuable cap space that could be used to upgrade the roster for a player already under contract.
If Brunson declines the extension, he'll enter a 2022 offseason with close to half of the league projected to have cap space to use on him or a group of unrestricted free agent guards that will likely include Terry Rozier, Tyus Jones, Patrick Beverley and Marcus Smart.
Kristaps Porzingis
When Dallas traded for Porzingis in 2019, they thought they were adding a second franchise player alongside Doncic.
Instead, a combination of injuries, inconsistent play and an unidentified role has now turned Porzingis into nothing more than an expensive starter. Don't get me wrong: Averaging 20 points during the regular season and shooting 37.6% from three is nothing to complain about. But Dallas could go out on the free-agent market and sign a player at a third of the cost if they are looking for a spacing big man to average 12 points per game, which is what Porzingis produced in the first-round loss to the Clippers.
"It's obviously not easy, but I accept it," Porzingis said of his floor-spacing role after the Game 6 loss. "That's what the team is asking me to do, and I'm willing to do whatever, whatever is necessary for us to go forward. As soon as I accepted that, then it's not a psychological battle with myself anymore. I'm just out there playing and doing things that the team's asking me to do and trying to do the best I can."
Porzingis is entering the third year of a max contract that has $100 million left, including cap hits of $31.7 million, $33.8 million and $36 million. As the chart below shows, his play on the court resembles that of a player earning $17.9 million.
The Mavericks will likely be right around the cap line entering the 2022-23 season just accounting for the Doncic extension and likely new contracts for Brunson, Hardaway and Dorian Finney-Smith. Because of that, the nearly $34 million owed to Porzingis carries extra weight. For the Mavericks to be more than just an annual first-round loser, Porzingis has to stay healthy. More importantly, he has to become that franchise-level star the Mavericks thought they had acquired in 2019.
If the Mavericks don't believe he can be that anymore, they could look to trade him, but other teams will be wary of his injury history. Besides missing the 2018-19 season while recovering from a torn ACL, Porzingis has played only 100 regular-season games over the past two years, missing 33 games alone because of right knee soreness.
Offseason cap breakdown
Mavericks' Projected Cap Sheet
PLAYER 2021-22 SALARY
  1. Kristaps Porzingis $31,650,600

  2. Dwight Powell $11,080,125

  3. Josh Richardson $11,615,328 (player option)

  4. Luka Doncic $10,174,391

  5. Maxi Kleber $8,825,000

  6. Dorian Finney-Smith $4,000,000

  7. Trey Burke $3,150,000

  8. Josh Green $2,957,520

  9. Tyrell Terry $1,517,981

  10. Willie Cauley-Stein. $4,100,000 (team option)

  11. Jalen Brunson. $1,802,057 (non-guaranteed)

  12. Tim Hardaway Jr. $28,462,500 (free agent hold)

  13. JJ Redick $16,917,810 (free agent hold)

  14. Boban Marjanovic $4,709,900 (free agent hold)

  15. Nicolo Melli $5,066,666 (free agent hold)

  16. Nate Hinton $1,489,065 (free agent hold)

  17. Tyler Bey $1,489,065 (free agent hold)
Guaranteed contracts $85M
Partial/non-guaranteed $5.9M
Free agent/draft holds $59.9M
Total $150.8M
SALARY CAP $112.8M
LUXURY TAX $136.6M
Team needs
Porzingis to stay healthy
A reliable second option next to Doncic
Shooting off the bench if Hardaway leaves
Resources to build the roster
The free-agent attraction of playing with Doncic
Projected $20M-30M in cap space, but at the expense of Hardaway
Cash: $5.8 million to send or receive in a trade
Dates to watch
• The only thing guaranteed outside of Doncic receiving a max rookie extension is that the Mavericks will guarantee Brunson's contract. The 2018 second-round pick's $1.8 million contract becomes guaranteed on Aug. 2.
• The Aug. 1 decision by Josh Richardson on whether to exercise the $11.6 million contract will dictate which direction the Mavericks go with available cap space. Before the season, we could have penciled in the guard as declining his option and becoming a free agent. Now, after an inconsistent season that saw Richardson get traded for the second time in as many offseasons, deal with a bout of COVID-19 and eventually lose his spot in the starting lineup, testing free agency is not guaranteed.
• How the Mavericks prioritize cap space this offseason will dictate the $4.1 million team option on Willie Cauley-Stein. Dallas has until Aug. 1 to exercise the option on the backup center. In his second season with the Mavericks, Cauley-Stein played in 53 games, averaging 5.3 points and 4.5 rebounds. Because his contract is of value for a backup center, the Mavericks could pick up the option but trade him down the road if they need to clear room.
Restrictions
• Richardson and Cauley-Stein are not allowed to be traded until they exercise the options in their contracts.
• Brunson is a non-guaranteed contract and counts as zero outgoing salary in a trade.
• The earliest first-round pick that Dallas can trade is in the 2027 draft.
• Porzingis and Trey Burke have trade bonuses. The Porzingis 5% trade kicker would get voided because it exceeds the maximum salary allowed in 2020-21. The Burke trade bonus is 7.5% of the value remaining on his contract (minus the player option in 2022-23).
Extension candidates
• The Mavericks could be in the business of giving out extensions this offseason. Besides Brunson, the contracts of Finney-Smith, Maxi Kleber and Dwight Powell are extension eligible.
• The Mavericks cannot afford to allow Finney-Smith to enter free agency in 2022. The 28-year-old is the Mavericks' top defender and ranked 14th among all power forwards in defensive real plus-minus. In 60 regular-season games, Finney-Smith averaged 9.8 points, 5.4 rebounds and shot 39.4% from 3. Because he is in the last year of his contract, Dallas can extend him for an additional four seasons and up to $55 million in new money. In 2020-21, he outplayed his $4 million contract by $5 million, according to ProFitX.
• Kleber has two years left on his contract, with the last year being non-guaranteed. A starter in 40 games this season, the 29-year-old shot a career-best 41% from 3. The Mavericks can extend him for an additional three seasons starting at $11 million up until the last day prior to the start of the regular season.
The draft
The Mavericks do not have a pick in the 2021 draft. Dallas traded its first-round pick to New York as part of the Porzingis trade. Its second-round pick was sent to New Orleans to acquire JJ Redick.
Dallas owns its 2022 first-round pick, but cannot include it in a trade because the team still owes an additional first-round pick to the Knicks. That pick is top-10 protected in 2023, and that protection carries over to 2024 and 2025. If the pick hasn't conveyed by 2025, it becomes a 2025 second-round pick.
The Mavericks have made two draft-night trades in the past two years. In 2020, as part of the trade that sent Seth Curry to the Philadelphia 76ers for Josh Richardson, Dallas acquired the No. 36 pick in the draft (the rights to Tyler Bey). The previous year, Dallas moved back in the draft, trading the No. 37 pick (Deividas Sirvydis) to the Detroit Pistons for the No. 45 pick (Isaiah Roby) and two future second-round picks (both of which were traded before Dallas could use them).

I couldn't post Bobby Marks article, so here is the link

https://www.reddit.com/r/Mavericks/comments/nubod8/offseason_moves_for_the_dallas_mavericks_how_to/


RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace | FA starts Aug 2, 5 pm - Branduil - 06-07-2021

Sure seems like a lot of our problems could be solved by getting Brogdon and Turner. I'd give up just about most of the team to make that happen somehow.

Maybe KP to GS for Wiggins+pick to Indy, Maxi+Brunson to Indy, Brogdon and Turner to Mavs.

1              2              3             4
PG      Brogdon        Burke       Terry
SG     DFS            X          Green       Hinton
SF     Luka           X              X             X
PF       X            Bey            X
C        Turner      Powell


Assuming JRich is gone, Mavs would have something like $35 million+ to re-sign THJ and fill the hole at PF and backup PG.


RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace | FA starts Aug 2, 5 pm - Chicagojk - 06-07-2021

(06-07-2021, 08:30 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: Hopefully this looks ok

Offseason moves for the Dallas Mavericks: How to build a contender around Luka Doncic
6:13 AM Bobby Marks
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For the Dallas Mavericks, last year's loss to the LA Clippers in the first round of the NBA playoffs in the bubble brought a sense of achievement and hope for the future. However, this year's loss despite coming in seven games rather than six, has the feeling of disappointment. Dallas was up 3-2 in the series and couldn't close things out, and now the Mavericks are at a crossroads with their roster.
While they have a franchise player in Luka Doncic, there are questions about whether the rest of the roster is enough for Dallas to take the next step.
This offseason will see the Mavericks focus on Doncic's rookie extension, deciding between re-signing Tim Hardaway Jr. or creating cap space, and the uncertain future of Kristaps Porzingis.
Luka's max extension The Mavericks face many questions this offseason. Doncic's rookie extension is not one of them. Doncic is set to become the first player in league history to sign a rookie extension that exceeds $200 million. Because Doncic was named All-NBA in 2019-20 and is a virtual lock to earn the honor again this year, he'll meet the All-NBA criteria necessary to sign a five-year max extension worth 30% of the salary cap in 2022-23.
2022-23 | $34.7M
2023-24 | $37.5M
2024-25 | $40.3M
2025-26 | $43.1M
2026-27 | $45.9M
The $201.5 million projection could increase if the business of basketball reverts back to normalcy pre-COVID-19, and cap levels rise more than the projected 3% for the 2022-23 season.
The lone sticking point that Bill Duffy, his agent from BDA Sports, and the Mavericks will have to sort out is whether Doncic will have a player option in 2026-27. While the player option seems irrelevant now, including it in the contract gives Doncic a way out if the Mavericks do not build a championship roster around him in the foreseeable future. Considering that the Mavericks have little to no leverage in the negotiations, expect it to be included in the extension.
Once Doncic signs the extension, the Mavericks will be prevented from trading him in 2021-22, not that they'd look to do so. However, the Dallas front office cannot rest solely on the fact that Doncic is under contract through 2026-27. The clock now starts for them to put together a roster that has more than a first-round ceiling.
"Every summer has the same pressures to add to the team," GM Donnie Nelson told mavs.com in late March. "Look at where we are, we certainly like a lot of the pieces. We got to give ourselves a chance to see what we have. Anyone that plays next to Luka seems to take an uptick and I think that's going to bode well for us this summer in terms of the kind of attractiveness to this style of play, a championship coach, and Mark [Cuban]."
Tim Hardaway Jr.
When the Mavericks traded for Kristaps Porzingis in 2019, the inclusion of Tim Hardaway Jr. was seen as a salary dump from the New York Knicks' end. Few predicted that Hardaway would end up being the better contributor on the court.
At the time of the trade, Hardaway was shooting a career-low 38.8% from the field. Over parts of four seasons in two stints with the Knicks, he'd averaged 13.8 points per game and shot 40.7% overall. When he was acquired in January 2019, the guard was underperforming his $17.3 million contract by $5 million, according to ProFitX, and had more than $50 million left on the deal.
Now 32 months later, it is Hardaway, not Porzingis, who has turned into the Mavericks' most valuable player outside of Doncic. Besides being durable (he only missed two games this season), Hardaway is the rare player who excels either coming off the bench as a sixth man or as a starter.
"With Tim, the proof is in a sample size of well over a year," coach Rick Carlisle told mavs.com. "When he was starting last year, he had a great flow. He started early this year and we made the change to go to more of a defensive lineup and bring him off the bench because we were really struggling with defense. "He was willing to do it. That's one reason that I'm willing to make other changes in the lineup, when you have a guy like him who's one of your top players willing to do it."
In the first-round loss to the Clippers, Hardaway started all seven games, averaging 17 points and shooting 40% from three. Not bad for a player who was a throw-in back in 2019.
Now entering the offseason, the Mavericks and Hardaway have a decision to make regarding the future. Because of Hardaway's $28.6 million free agent cap hold, Dallas enters the summer over the salary cap despite having only $85.1 million in guaranteed contracts.
While it is highly unlikely that Hardaway will see a contract that resembles his cap hold from Dallas or a team with cap space, the guard has a salary projection that ranges from low of $15 million to a high of $18 million, according to ProFitX.
A starting salary in the $18 million range would put the Mavericks right at the salary cap and left with the $9.5 million midlevel and $3.8 million biannual exceptions to use in free agency.
Dallas could create up to $20 million in room while still re-signing Hardaway, but that would require the Mavericks to decline the team option on Willie Cauley-Stein and have Josh Richardson decline his player option (or be traded in the offseason after picking it up). With Doncic's salary increasing from $11.1 million in 2021-22 to $34.7 million in 2022-23, the window for Dallas to use cap space on players outside of their own is closing.
Of course, Dallas could have more than $35 million in room, but that would come at the expense of Hardaway, Richardson and Cauley-Stein.
Jalen Brunson
The Mavericks took an unorthodox approach when they signed Brunson to a four-year contract after he was drafted in 2018. Because the contract does not contain a team option for 2021-22, the Mavericks are at risk of Brunson playing out the contract and becoming an unrestricted free agent next offseason.
The inclusion of a team option would have allowed Dallas to decline the option and make Brunson a restricted free agent this offseason. Brunson's cap hold in that scenario would've been just $2.1 million, and the Mavericks could've re-signed him to a longer deal or matched any offer he received from another team. Instead, because his unrestricted free-agent status hangs over the organization, Brunson has leverage as it relates to the maximum allowed in an extension.
Brunson is coming off a season where he averaged a career high in minutes (25.0), points (12.6), field goal percentage (52.3%) and 3-point percentage (40.5%). Per Cleaning the Glass, Brunson ranked in the 97th percentile of all players in points per shot attempt. As Zach Lowe wrote in late February, you could make the argument that Brunson was, at times this season, the Mavericks second-best player.
The Mavericks clearly dropped the ball in 2018 when they structured his contract but could get a mulligan this offseason.
Dallas can offer the guard a four-year, $55 million extension (the maximum allowed) on the first day of free agency, eliminating the threat of him becoming an unrestricted free agent. According to ProFitX, the projected salary in 2022-23 for Brunson is $12.8 million -- comparable to the starting salary in an extension.
Brunson also has reached the third-year anniversary of his contract, allowing the Mavericks to renegotiate his $1.8 million salary for 2021-22. However, that would require Dallas to take away valuable cap space that could be used to upgrade the roster for a player already under contract.
If Brunson declines the extension, he'll enter a 2022 offseason with close to half of the league projected to have cap space to use on him or a group of unrestricted free agent guards that will likely include Terry Rozier, Tyus Jones, Patrick Beverley and Marcus Smart.
Kristaps Porzingis
When Dallas traded for Porzingis in 2019, they thought they were adding a second franchise player alongside Doncic.
Instead, a combination of injuries, inconsistent play and an unidentified role has now turned Porzingis into nothing more than an expensive starter. Don't get me wrong: Averaging 20 points during the regular season and shooting 37.6% from three is nothing to complain about. But Dallas could go out on the free-agent market and sign a player at a third of the cost if they are looking for a spacing big man to average 12 points per game, which is what Porzingis produced in the first-round loss to the Clippers.
"It's obviously not easy, but I accept it," Porzingis said of his floor-spacing role after the Game 6 loss. "That's what the team is asking me to do, and I'm willing to do whatever, whatever is necessary for us to go forward. As soon as I accepted that, then it's not a psychological battle with myself anymore. I'm just out there playing and doing things that the team's asking me to do and trying to do the best I can."
Porzingis is entering the third year of a max contract that has $100 million left, including cap hits of $31.7 million, $33.8 million and $36 million. As the chart below shows, his play on the court resembles that of a player earning $17.9 million.
The Mavericks will likely be right around the cap line entering the 2022-23 season just accounting for the Doncic extension and likely new contracts for Brunson, Hardaway and Dorian Finney-Smith. Because of that, the nearly $34 million owed to Porzingis carries extra weight. For the Mavericks to be more than just an annual first-round loser, Porzingis has to stay healthy. More importantly, he has to become that franchise-level star the Mavericks thought they had acquired in 2019.
If the Mavericks don't believe he can be that anymore, they could look to trade him, but other teams will be wary of his injury history. Besides missing the 2018-19 season while recovering from a torn ACL, Porzingis has played only 100 regular-season games over the past two years, missing 33 games alone because of right knee soreness.
Offseason cap breakdown
Mavericks' Projected Cap Sheet
PLAYER 2021-22 SALARY
  1. Kristaps Porzingis $31,650,600

  2. Dwight Powell $11,080,125

  3. Josh Richardson $11,615,328 (player option)

  4. Luka Doncic $10,174,391

  5. Maxi Kleber $8,825,000

  6. Dorian Finney-Smith $4,000,000

  7. Trey Burke $3,150,000

  8. Josh Green $2,957,520

  9. Tyrell Terry $1,517,981

  10. Willie Cauley-Stein. $4,100,000 (team option)

  11. Jalen Brunson. $1,802,057 (non-guaranteed)

  12. Tim Hardaway Jr. $28,462,500 (free agent hold)

  13. JJ Redick $16,917,810 (free agent hold)

  14. Boban Marjanovic $4,709,900 (free agent hold)

  15. Nicolo Melli $5,066,666 (free agent hold)

  16. Nate Hinton $1,489,065 (free agent hold)

  17. Tyler Bey $1,489,065 (free agent hold)
Guaranteed contracts $85M
Partial/non-guaranteed $5.9M
Free agent/draft holds $59.9M
Total $150.8M
SALARY CAP $112.8M
LUXURY TAX $136.6M
Team needs
Porzingis to stay healthy
A reliable second option next to Doncic
Shooting off the bench if Hardaway leaves
Resources to build the roster
The free-agent attraction of playing with Doncic
Projected $20M-30M in cap space, but at the expense of Hardaway
Cash: $5.8 million to send or receive in a trade
Dates to watch
• The only thing guaranteed outside of Doncic receiving a max rookie extension is that the Mavericks will guarantee Brunson's contract. The 2018 second-round pick's $1.8 million contract becomes guaranteed on Aug. 2.
• The Aug. 1 decision by Josh Richardson on whether to exercise the $11.6 million contract will dictate which direction the Mavericks go with available cap space. Before the season, we could have penciled in the guard as declining his option and becoming a free agent. Now, after an inconsistent season that saw Richardson get traded for the second time in as many offseasons, deal with a bout of COVID-19 and eventually lose his spot in the starting lineup, testing free agency is not guaranteed.
• How the Mavericks prioritize cap space this offseason will dictate the $4.1 million team option on Willie Cauley-Stein. Dallas has until Aug. 1 to exercise the option on the backup center. In his second season with the Mavericks, Cauley-Stein played in 53 games, averaging 5.3 points and 4.5 rebounds. Because his contract is of value for a backup center, the Mavericks could pick up the option but trade him down the road if they need to clear room.
Restrictions
• Richardson and Cauley-Stein are not allowed to be traded until they exercise the options in their contracts.
• Brunson is a non-guaranteed contract and counts as zero outgoing salary in a trade.
• The earliest first-round pick that Dallas can trade is in the 2027 draft.
• Porzingis and Trey Burke have trade bonuses. The Porzingis 5% trade kicker would get voided because it exceeds the maximum salary allowed in 2020-21. The Burke trade bonus is 7.5% of the value remaining on his contract (minus the player option in 2022-23).
Extension candidates
• The Mavericks could be in the business of giving out extensions this offseason. Besides Brunson, the contracts of Finney-Smith, Maxi Kleber and Dwight Powell are extension eligible.
• The Mavericks cannot afford to allow Finney-Smith to enter free agency in 2022. The 28-year-old is the Mavericks' top defender and ranked 14th among all power forwards in defensive real plus-minus. In 60 regular-season games, Finney-Smith averaged 9.8 points, 5.4 rebounds and shot 39.4% from 3. Because he is in the last year of his contract, Dallas can extend him for an additional four seasons and up to $55 million in new money. In 2020-21, he outplayed his $4 million contract by $5 million, according to ProFitX.
• Kleber has two years left on his contract, with the last year being non-guaranteed. A starter in 40 games this season, the 29-year-old shot a career-best 41% from 3. The Mavericks can extend him for an additional three seasons starting at $11 million up until the last day prior to the start of the regular season.
The draft
The Mavericks do not have a pick in the 2021 draft. Dallas traded its first-round pick to New York as part of the Porzingis trade. Its second-round pick was sent to New Orleans to acquire JJ Redick.
Dallas owns its 2022 first-round pick, but cannot include it in a trade because the team still owes an additional first-round pick to the Knicks. That pick is top-10 protected in 2023, and that protection carries over to 2024 and 2025. If the pick hasn't conveyed by 2025, it becomes a 2025 second-round pick.
The Mavericks have made two draft-night trades in the past two years. In 2020, as part of the trade that sent Seth Curry to the Philadelphia 76ers for Josh Richardson, Dallas acquired the No. 36 pick in the draft (the rights to Tyler Bey). The previous year, Dallas moved back in the draft, trading the No. 37 pick (Deividas Sirvydis) to the Detroit Pistons for the No. 45 pick (Isaiah Roby) and two future second-round picks (both of which were traded before Dallas could use them).

I couldn't post Bobby Marks article, so here is the link

https://www.reddit.com/r/Mavericks/comments/nubod8/offseason_moves_for_the_dallas_mavericks_how_to/

 Man, Hardaway would be ideal at 15-17 million.  Can you sign him and then sign either Derozan or Holmes?  I think I would prefer Derozan even if he is not as good as a fit at Holmes probably.   That is a tight fit with the $ available.  Re-sign Brunson.   Then look to improve on the edges.  it may not be a championship team but you still have some young developmental players and maybe some expirings in time  you could use to make that final move


RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace | FA starts Aug 2, 5 pm - dirkfansince1998 - 06-07-2021

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Fire up the trade machine...


RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace | FA starts Aug 2, 5 pm - ItsGoTime - 06-07-2021

(06-07-2021, 07:59 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: I think this whole thing is well put.  We've tried for two summers to get a guy who can handle the point of attack defensively, but neither has been able to work in our system offensively.  What we need is Drew Holiday...without it actually being Drew Holiday.  Get me that guy and I bet we can make the rest of this work.
Malcolm Brogdon is the next best thing IMO. Guys like Devonte Graham are a retread of Wright/JRich.


RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace | FA starts Aug 2, 5 pm - ItsGoTime - 06-07-2021

As far as building a contender? We need to stop thinking in terms of getting there this offseason. We for sure need to get our starters and highest paid players this year. However, we need to think of this in terms of adding 2 pieces this year, then a piece each year as time goes on. This has been my thought for a long time, but we haven’t added a piece in the last 2 years. 

We can always trade ill-fitting parts once they are identified, just get them in here and figure that out!


RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace | FA starts Aug 2, 5 pm - dynamicalVoid - 06-07-2021

(06-07-2021, 08:22 AM)omahen Wrote: KP might have a comment or two about this statement Smile 




Or not, as KP case might show Smile 

Just making some jokes, not making fun of you. I basically have same dilemmas and my mind is providing different "solutions" every time I think about it. Right now I like two options moving forward:
1. Forget stars. Put good players around Luka who can defend and shoot. Hope they will be able to help more than the current ones have
2. Add a semi star on a three year contract, resign THJ if possible. Wait 3 years for Luka to mature and gain experience.

I watched Atlanta yesterday and that is something completely different. When Young gets double teamed Huerter, Bogi, Gallo, Collins can all put it on the floor and attack. Leading to either layups or wide open shots. Same with Clippers. Mavs role players are basically limited to catch and shoot.

I disagree about waiting on anything with Luka.  3 years is certainly mismanagement imo.

Luka has the skills and IQ to carry right now...at 22.  He is not perfect and has some maturing to do...but he can get you to the promise land with a little help.

Waiting around with Luka on your team?  I'm out on that deal


RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace | FA starts Aug 2, 5 pm - dirkfansince1998 - 06-07-2021

When we mention that Luka cannot win with his current ball dominant style we should also mention that we really haven´t embraced the Luka experience. We don´t know how far Luka can go with an all out 3&D supporting cast. If the Mavs cannot find a legit 2nd option the next best option is probably a Luka-ball roster. More defense, more shooting, more pick and roll.


RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace | FA starts Aug 2, 5 pm - Kammrath - 06-07-2021

(06-07-2021, 09:18 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: When we mention that Luka cannot win with his current ball dominant style we should also mention that we really haven´t embraced the Luka experience. We don´t know how far Luka can go with an all out 3&D supporting cast. If the Mavs cannot find a legit 2nd option the next best option is probably a Luka-ball roster. More defense, more shooting, more pick and roll.


Yep and probably the best approach while he is young.


RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace | FA starts Aug 2, 5 pm - hakeemfaan - 06-07-2021

(06-07-2021, 09:18 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: When we mention that Luka cannot win with his current ball dominant style we should also mention that we really haven´t embraced the Luka experience. We don´t know how far Luka can go with an all out 3&D supporting cast. If the Mavs cannot find a legit 2nd option the next best option is probably a Luka-ball roster. More defense, more shooting, more pick and roll.

It won’t work without a couple more legit  ball handlers. Clippers trapping Luka at the top and in general the high usage rate of Luka exposed the lack of ball handling talent on this team. Even if you put 4 Bruce Bowens around Luka that will not help. 

In hindsight they lost a couple of key elements. Seth’s spacing and Delon’s ability to create. I am not saying that both don’t have their flaws, but in the rush to get generic 3D guys we ignored that elite 3 pt shooting even with a relatively weaker defender is probably more important than a generic 3D guy. The other facet that was really exposed in the playoffs is lack of ball handling skills. Even if you get better 3D guys that needs to be addressed. Most so called 3D guys cannot create at all.


RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace | FA starts Aug 2, 5 pm - Omega_Supreme - 06-07-2021

WOW, I cannot believe guys are actually discussing DFS. I can agree he may not be a starter but man DFS is a championship level player on a premium salary. 

I would give up Brunson before DFS.


RE: ROSTER TALK: DAL with $22.7M - $34.4M in capspace | FA starts Aug 2, 5 pm - mvossman - 06-07-2021

(06-07-2021, 07:31 AM)omahen Wrote: Below is a depth chart of Mavs summer roster based on a position they play on defense. I didn't include any free agents to be other than the two way players. At this point I will assume KP stays, as it simplifies situation a bit. Trading him provides million possibilities and I just don't have any input at this point that would reduce number of possibilities.


          1              2              3             4
PG      X          Brunson     Burke       Terry
SG     DFS            X          Green       Hinton
SF     Luka           X              X             X
PF       X           Maxi          Bey            X
C        KP          Powell

I think we lack starting guard that defends opponent point of offense, can create at least a little and shoots reasonably well. We also need a starting PF or big wing. Has to be a defender and shooter and if possible create for himself. I have absolutely no problem trading any of the guys under 2 if we can get a guy under 1, as I think we can get adequate back ups for rMLE, BaU or even vet min. Green is the only guy in column "3" I would be semi comfortable promoting to column "2". 

First big question is, can we survive with a weak defender on any of those open spots in the first column? I am sceptical, but guys that are both good on defense and offense are just not available. So, where is the guarantee we will not just get ourselves into another WrighT/Rich situation?

Second question is, if THJ is the guy we can put on first place at PG? Sure he had a great playoff run, Mavs offense is really sad without him. But he doesn't create, can't do much other than spot up shooting and his defense is suspect, although I was pleasantly surprised with his performance in playoffs. Still, I just don't see him there. I see him in the second culomn of SG and SF position, but his salary might be a problem to realize that, if we want upgrade at PG and PF. Can we SnT him somewhere?

Smart could be great for that "PG1" spot, but I am seriously affraid offense would remain a total all Luka show, unless we can get a PF who can create for himself. But is there one available? Could we survive with a smaller PF, like DeRozan in this case, again sacrificing defense? Sorry, but for positions PG and PF in column 1 I only have a lot of questions and dilemmas, but not many answers. 

I guess it is much easier to get players in the second column (third and fourth column are vet min and 2-way guys imho). I think the past has shown that those guys have to be able to shoot the ball or there will be very limited opportunity for them. They probably also need to play defense. I guess there are several interesting options to be had for rMLE at most, hopefully even BaE. New Yorks Burks (rMLE) and Bullock (BaE) would be great options at SG and SF column 2. Batum, Tucker, Bazemore, Temple, Craig, Niang should all be available for exception money. Cheap back up PG in case Brunson is traded is more difficult. Cam Payne, Neto, Rivers? McConnel or Mills might be pipedream for rMLE.

I think this is spot on.  Personally, I feel like we need to trade KP at this point.  But if we are looking at ways to improve outside of that, I feel like a trade of Brunson for Smart would make a ton of sense.  We replace a 2 with a 1.  Offensively Smart would be able to take some of the distribution pressure off Luka and would be able to make quick quality decisions when Luka gets doubled.  You could also stagger their minutes so that Smart leads the second unit when Luka is out.  His defense is what we have been desperately seeking in Wright and JRich, and although he is not a dominate offensive player, he has been able to hold own as a starter for many seasons.

I really like the idea of Batum at the 4.  Him and Maxi would be a good team at the 4 and allow DFS to slide down to the 3 where he is more effective.  I seriously doubt he would cost a full MLE and I think the max the Clippers could do is the rMLE.

Those two moves would greatly improve this team and you would still have ~15 mil in cap space and the two exceptions to fill out the second group.