(05-31-2021, 08:39 AM)StepBackJay Wrote: I am ready to trade this entire team sans Luka. What a difference 2 games makes. 2 games away we were ready to lock up everybody and fill in a couple holes. Right now I am thinking everything is on the table.

(05-30-2021, 02:56 PM)cjeter24 Wrote: If it’s unrealistic then kp isn’t going anywhere. They aren’t dumping him for absolutely nothing. It’s unrealistic to think that type of trade happens.

• At least one all star player
  
• At least one all defensive player 
  

(05-31-2021, 09:05 AM)Jason Terry Wrote: I’d build around Luka, DFS and Maxi

Brunson, KP and J Rich available in trade

Hardaway probably back unless our trades net players that replace him and we needed the space or something. 

All the other players including the rookies are available if necessary for matching or trade assets. The only thing I’m not touching is the FRP’s. Saving them

Just bring in the highest quality 2-way players we can find

(05-31-2021, 08:39 AM)StepBackJay Wrote: I am ready to trade this entire team sans Luka.

• Luka
  

• DFS
  
• THJ (at $14M or less)
  
• JB
  
• WCS
  
• Boban (at vet min)
  
• Melli (at vet min)
  
• JJR (at vet min)
  
• JG
  
• TT 
  
• Bey
  

• Maxi
  
• DP
  

• KP
  
• JR
  
• TB
  

(05-31-2021, 09:39 AM)Omega_Supreme Wrote: I went back and looked at all of the champions in the last 10 years and every last one of them including the Mavs 2011 team with the exception of Lebron's Cavs had 2 ingredients:

• At least one all star player
  
• At least one all defensive player 
  

For our 2011 squad that was Tyson Chandler and Dirk. 

We do not have that second ingredient on this roster right now. It was supposed to be KP but he is not it. The Mavs need to find out how to get a guy like that on the roster if they want to be legit. 

The Lebron team that won it against Golden St. the year Draymond got suspended had Lebron on it who is elite on defense when he wants to be so that year is the only exception. Take that how you want. 

The Mavs need to reshape this entire roster and although I am a big fan of Lavine he is one of multiple pieces needed on this team.

(05-31-2021, 10:27 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: You mean at least two All-Star level players, often three, sometimes four.

LeBron, Wade, Bosh
LeBron, Wade, Bosh
Kawhi, Parker, Duncan (Ginobili)
Curry, Thompson, Green
LeBron, Kyrie, Love
Curry, Durant, Thompson, Green
Curry, Durant, Thompson, Green
Kawhi, Lowry, Siakam (Gasol)
LeBron, Davis, (Rondo)

...

Doncic, THJ, DFS

I mean seriously.

(05-30-2021, 03:05 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: How? DFS and Brunson will be free agents and if you want to keep them they will get a big raise. Luka will get a max and qualifies for all available kickers. I expect a Rose rule deal starting in the 34.5-35m range (4/155-156m, 5th year player option 46m)

(05-31-2021, 09:34 AM)Omega_Supreme Wrote: I am almost willing to bet you that KP will be traded and it won't be for John Collins. The Hawks have Collins replacement already on the roster and adding 30 million dollars to the payroll makes no sense. 

KP will be traded and I willing to bet on it.

(05-31-2021, 10:27 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: You mean at least two All-Star level players, often three, sometimes four.

LeBron, Wade, Bosh
LeBron, Wade, Bosh
Kawhi, Parker, Duncan (Ginobili)
Curry, Thompson, Green
LeBron, Kyrie, Love
Curry, Durant, Thompson, Green
Curry, Durant, Thompson, Green
Kawhi, Lowry, Siakam (Gasol)
LeBron, Davis, (Rondo)

...

Doncic, THJ, DFS

I mean seriously.

(05-31-2021, 01:24 PM)khaled1987 Wrote: You are both right.
The argument of having multiple good scorer is valid, no need to elaborate more. 
But I have talked about having a "go to" type of defensive player, someone who sets your defense and to rely on. Every championship team in past decade(s) had someone or two who were contender for DPOY at some point.
Lakers had AD and Lebron (6 times all defensive teams), Raptors had Kawhi/Gasol who own it, and Ibaka (3 all defensive team, was contender for DPOY during that time), GSW had Green and Iggy (2 times defensive team of the year) 
Spurs had Kawhi, in addition to ancient Duncan, Miami had prime Lebron and Wade, Dallas had TC and ancient Kidd. Lakers had Kobe and Artist in one of the last two, Celtics had KG, Spurs had prime TD in 99/03/05/07 and Bowen , Miami had Wade along ancient Payton and Morning, Detroit had Ben Wallace (do I need to say more). 
Only Cavs and Lakers from that list had one player with Defensive team of the year appearance in his career. 

That is why I was really hopeful to go after Gobert if he was not renewing. 

So yeah, we need another elite scorer, but we need elite defender too. 
Happened that teams won with one elite scorer (2011 Mavs) but didn't happen you lacked elite defenders.

(05-31-2021, 01:45 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Probably on the right track. I would say that it isn´t about one lockdown on ball defender or elite rim protection. The intangibles are important. Communication, coaching on the court, calling out opposing plays and more. Call it leadership, winning culture, defensive identity or something else. Doesn´t matter. The Mavs don´t have it. Elite teams do.
Obviously also helps if the mentioned guy is a really good individual defender.

(05-31-2021, 10:03 AM)Kammrath Wrote: 100%. 

And that is NOT a knee jerk position. Looking at the data from the entire season AND last season there is NO ONE on this team that should be off limits moving forward except Luka.

KEEPER:

• Luka
  

NICE TO HAVE (at current salary) BUT ON TRADE BLOCK:

• DFS
  
• THJ (at $14M or less)
  
• JB
  
• WCS
  
• Boban (at vet min)
  
• Melli (at vet min)
  
• JJR (at vet min)
  
• JG
  
• TT 
  
• Bey
  

MOVE ON IF YOU CAN:

• Maxi
  
• DP
  

NEEDS TO GO:

• KP
  
• JR
  
• TB
  

(05-31-2021, 01:24 PM)khaled1987 Wrote: You are both right.
The argument of having multiple good scorer is valid, no need to elaborate more. 
But I have talked about having a "go to" type of defensive player, someone who sets your defense and to rely on. Every championship team in past decade(s) had someone or two who were contender for DPOY at some point.
Lakers had AD and Lebron (6 times all defensive teams), Raptors had Kawhi/Gasol who own it, and Ibaka (3 all defensive team, was contender for DPOY during that time), GSW had Green and Iggy (2 times defensive team of the year) 
Spurs had Kawhi, in addition to ancient Duncan, Miami had prime Lebron and Wade, Dallas had TC and ancient Kidd. Lakers had Kobe and Artist in one of the last two, Celtics had KG, Spurs had prime TD in 99/03/05/07 and Bowen , Miami had Wade along ancient Payton and Morning, Detroit had Ben Wallace (do I need to say more). 
Only Cavs and Lakers from that list had one player with Defensive team of the year appearance in his career. 

That is why I was really hopeful to go after Gobert if he was not renewing. 

So yeah, we need another elite scorer, but we need elite defender too. 
Happened that teams won with one elite scorer (2011 Mavs) but didn't happen you lacked elite defenders.