(05-30-2021, 08:28 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: I don´t get the negativity about trades like Lavine tbh. He has more leverage than Harden did. We can match the talent exchanged in the Harden trade.

(05-30-2021, 12:01 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: From a Mavs perspective I think the best chance you have is probably LaVine going to a team like the Pels and the Pels still missing the playoffs so that he doesn't feel any obligation to stay there.

(05-30-2021, 12:45 PM)ItsGoTime Wrote: Man, he couldn’t get his Chi team to the playoffs for years, he couldn’t help make it happen after getting a fellow all star in trade this year. If he goes to NO and they only lose Ball, and they still miss the playoffs? Is that a guy to bring in?

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Harden is a guy that calls his own shots so him demanding a trade was a surprise to know once. Is Zach LaVine that type of guy? He doesn't strike me as a guy to do that but I don't follow him super closely. He seems like he will politely decline his extension and then it's in the Bulls court to figure out whether they can keep him by creating a winning team in a hurry or trade him. At the TDL they made a big move to get a second star in Vucevic. That shows you they are not giving up just yet. They can create cap space and also have Lauri as a potential trade chip to try to build a better supporting roster or land a third guy. Bulls do not have any more first round draft picks to trade so they are in a tough spot.

If the time comes to trade LaVine I think it's the Bulls who pull the trigger and while LaVine will have some leverage he doesn't have so much leverage that he can pick the exact team. He will want to go to a playoff team like Dallas but there could be other teams in the mix. Warriors have pieces to trade, Clippers have PG, 76ers have a couple trade options, Celtics have a couple options. Not sure if Pacers or Hornets are good enough to be on LaVine's resign list. Knicks have things they could trade, Raptors, Blazers, maybe Pelicans if LaVine wants to play with Zion. Pels who might lose Lonzo anyway could do a S&T for LaVine with no risk of really losing anything.

From a Mavs perspective I think the best chance you have is probably LaVine going to a team like the Pels and the Pels still missing the playoffs so that he doesn't feel any obligation to stay there. Even if the Mavs are over the cap they could construct a trade to get LaVine in Dallas. That to me is more viable than any trade in the near term.

I guess the only way is if Mavs do a 3-way where KP goes somewhere that brings assets back that Bulls would like. Even then Mavs would probably have to tack on more assets to swing for LaVine.

(05-30-2021, 01:13 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Every player in the last year of his contract that is guaranteed a max contract offer in free agency calls his own shot. It´s redickulous to thing that in 2021 a FO would still be dumb enough to acquire a player that specifically tells them, that he´ll sign with another team in 12 months.

(05-29-2021, 05:17 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Heat season is over. I wonder if they are willing to make some bigger changes or take a risk on a player like KP. Duncan Robinson and Tyler Herro tanked their value. Dragic is getting older but would still be a solid backup big for most teams. They don´t have any tradeable picks but young players like Achiuwa, Nunn or Okpala. Could also use one of the older vets with team options are larger capholds to match salaries (Iguodala, Ariza).

(05-30-2021, 02:40 AM)Omega_Supreme Wrote: Those trades are less realistic than the one I proposed with OKC. OKC took on Al Horford which is a worse contract than KP. A team like OKC that has to maintain the salary floor would definitely get involved. They were a dump team for multiple contracts this past season. They are years away from competing and have a ton of draft capital, it would make more sense for them to take a shot on KP than a team like Atlanta that is playoff ready. 

Speaking of Atlanta, they also have a starting center and 95 million tied up for next season. They are better off letting Collins walk for nothing and using the cap space than maxing out their cap for KP. 

The trade I mentioned is to free up cap room to sign guys outright which will yield better players than what you are going to likely get for KP.

(05-30-2021, 02:25 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Honestly a trade of KP+Terry for Dragic/Robinson+2nd seems like a good trade for both teams.

(05-30-2021, 03:01 PM)cjeter24 Wrote: And we have the ability to clear cap space both of the next 2 offseasons.

(05-30-2021, 03:01 PM)cjeter24 Wrote: Dragic is a 1000 years old and kp is way better than Robinson. Seconds are worthless. That trade makes no sense for the mavs. The only thing that does is generate cap space. 

And we have the ability to clear cap space both of the next 2 offseasons.

(05-30-2021, 02:06 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: Right but did. you see LaVine quoted fairly recently that he would even take a discount if the Bulls continue to build around him? Like he doesn't seem like a guy that's going to hold them hostage.

(05-30-2021, 03:49 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Honestly that quote makes no sense to me at all. The easiest way to take a discount and maintain your leverage to demand team improvements is to play out the final year of his current contract. Once he signs the (discount) extension what incentive do the notoriously cheap Bulls have to keep their word? Regardless of whether he takes a 10% discount or not, an early max extension will eat significantly into their available cap, so it´s counterproductive to his own demands of improving the team. To me this sounds more like him already setting the stage for his exit strategy: I told you. This is all you got me. I want out NOW.

(05-30-2021, 09:46 PM)SwisherPrice Wrote: Brunson is a great backup guard. Nothing more, nothing less. Judging by his usage in this series, I think that's about as much as the Mavs view him too. That's why I'm skeptical on his long-term potential here and giving him big money

(05-31-2021, 04:54 AM)ItsGoTime Wrote: I think I might hound those who put THJ in their starting lineups for next year. That is such a recipe for disaster! He is the new JR Smith.