(05-28-2021, 04:52 AM)khaled1987 Wrote: Yeah.
Tbh, I think Mavs will either sell high at this point,  or just extension. 
Knicks looks like logical partner for us in 1st scenario , they need PG, I think he fits well with the new culture they set, he doesn't mess up with their cap space this year (their fans are rooting for us to sweep LAC , so Kawhi joins them   ) and they have a truly important asset for the Mavs, 2023 1st round that would free our assets whenever new star is available)

(05-28-2021, 05:57 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: I don't know if trading Brunson for some package that includes the 2023 pick is selling high. I'd rather have Brunson. It's hard to find a bench PG like him.

If the Knicks were throw an obscene amount of money at him next year, then maybe that's something different. But I don't think Brunson is going to command more than 15mm a year.

At least based on this years production. If he has a breakout year getting close to 20ppg next year then sure, but at that point why wouldn't the Mavs just extend him right?

(05-28-2021, 06:04 AM)khaled1987 Wrote: I didn't mean it as "only" 2023 1st, but it is generally a strong asset for us. They would need to give us more.

And yes,I agree that renewal is 1st option

(05-28-2021, 08:00 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: Yeah I didn't mean to imply you meant "only" the 2023 1st. The best realistic package I could see the Knicks offer is Mitchell Robinson+young dude (Knox? Franky Smokes? Toppin?)+2023 first for Brunson.

(05-27-2021, 10:42 PM)F Gump Wrote: The only way I'd consider Dragic would be if J-Rich opts in (which I expect will happen), Dragic wants to sign with Dallas for about $10M or less, and then the Heat will agree to do a sign and trade of Dragic for J-Rich.

You can't afford to pay much for Dragic in salary, or in a trade, because his career arc (on his way downhill, near the end) doesn't fit where the Mavs are. And the Mavs' MLE needs to be spent elsewhere (and may only be the taxpayers MLE). 

But if you can turn J-Rich at 11M into Dragic on a modest-sized deal for 2-3 years, that makes sense. If you pencil in THJ at his current salary or so, the Mavs are going to need to find some good $10M-or-less players, and Dragic has multiple ways he can help.

(05-28-2021, 05:57 AM)SleepingHero Wrote: If the Knicks were throw an obscene amount of money at him next year, then maybe that's something different. But I don't think Brunson is going to command more than 15mm a year.

(05-28-2021, 04:45 AM)JamesConway Wrote: Can’t we extend Brunson this summer?

(05-28-2021, 09:17 AM)StepBackJay Wrote: Dunno - if so, does anyone know the max money we can extend him for?

(05-28-2021, 09:32 AM)SkenfromLMF Wrote: Regarding Dragic, if he would accept a starting salary just under $8.5 million the trade could be Trey Burke and a 2nd rd pick. 

(05-28-2021, 10:17 AM)F Gump Wrote:  
It looks like you're talking about the Mavs being an over-cap non-tax team, and if so, that trade doesn't work at all.

Also, you prefer both J-Rich and Dragic, but Mavs don't have the minutes to make that work. J-Rich is already uncomfortable in the reduced role/minutes coming off the bench (although not making any waves), so if you're adding Dragic (which would slice his minutes even further), JR really needs to be moved somewhere. Plus, GD/JR is an easy trade match.

That's why I think J-Rich back to MIA would make sense - it's probably a plus for all involved, assuming Dragic wants to be in Dallas.

Of course, that may be a really bad assumption, making all of this moot. GD seems to really like Miami and they seem to like him.

(05-28-2021, 10:17 AM)F Gump Wrote: assuming Dragic wants to be in Dallas.

Of course, that may be a really bad assumption, making all of this moot. GD seems to really like Miami and they seem to like him.

(05-28-2021, 10:40 AM)SkenfromLMF Wrote: Good catch, I forgot there are 3 levels in Non-Tax trades... I prefer building assets which is why I like using the full MLE without gutting the cupboard to create space...

I like J-Rich as an expiring contract for a future trade. I would also see bringing in Dragic as move that would eventually allow a trade of Brunson with some salary like Richardson or Powell for the ever elusive starting caliber 2-way wing...

(05-28-2021, 09:58 AM)F Gump Wrote: Starting salary of approx 12M.

Same for a DFS extension

(05-28-2021, 11:21 AM)F Gump Wrote: I think J-Rich and WCS options will both be exercised without much ado, and with the Mavs apparently set on keeping THJ, they're over-cap.

(05-28-2021, 12:22 PM)TurkishMFFL Wrote: Guys, Vasilije Micic is having an incredible year. He has a top notch bbiq and a greater shooter and never ever backs down at crunch time. He is the latest MVP of Euroleague and now on his way to the Euroleague finals.

He is not a great defender but someone who would give the team a boost when shooting is needed. He is a former teammate of Maxi Kleber.

(05-28-2021, 01:14 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: One of the reasons Dallas has been successful in this series so far is that they know who their top 8 guys are, and the Clippers are really struggling to figure that out about themselves. 

So, it seems to me that anyone you want to bring IN to be a top 8 guy means that someone else has to STOP being a top 8 guy, right? While fan opinions of these guys might vary, I'm confident that none of them will be content getting pushed out of the top 8 while remaining on the team. So, to bring players in, players have to go. 

You want Markkanen? Fine, but understand that his role here would replace someone else's. Do you want him more than Kleber? Do you want him more than WCS/Powell? More than Porzingis? Those are the options, and LM probably won't sign on for WCS/Powell minutes. That's not what he means when he says he wants to land here (if that's even true). He's looking at Kleber's job, I promise. 

You want Dragic? You should ABSOLUTELY say goodbye to Richardson, in that scenario, and honestly, Dragic might be ok with a slightly reduced bench role at this point, given his age, but as others have said, he has a lot of equity built up in the Miami machine, and my guess is that he'd like to stay there if given the opportunity (though I bet Dallas would be high on his list if Miami decides to part ways). Plus, there is no question he has overlap with Brunson, so that could be tricky. 

My point is that these things are harder to pre-judge than we think. There really aren't any actual jobs open here next year unless Richardson opts out or THJ leaves in free agency. Sure, all of these guys are upgradable, but we have to consider the logistical and continuity cost of making these moves.