(05-26-2021, 09:30 PM)ClutchDirk Wrote: Hard pass on Playoff P...I want to win playoff games...

(05-26-2021, 04:15 PM)mvossman Wrote: Depends on JRich.  If he opts in, we are almost definitely operating over the cap (and likely trading him).  If he opts out, then ideally we can S&T him and stay over the cap, keep WCS and sign a MLE player.  If JRich walks and we can't get an S&T worked out, then we are looking at ~15 mil in cap space after THJ signing (not sure what his market will be, but it is going up right now).  That may not be enough for guys like Powell or Holmes (or even Fournier).  Most of the next best options that might fit in that range are restricted (Graham, Trent, Markkanen).

Given the likelihood that we are keeping THJ and his price going up, I think it is going to be tough to get a starter quality player in free agency.  I would greatly prefer the JRich trade scenario, but I don't know how likely that would be if he opts out?

(05-26-2021, 09:37 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Porzingis 17/4/0.5 59.6% TS
George 25.5/9/5.5 58.6% TS

(05-26-2021, 09:40 PM)ClutchDirk Wrote: One has many years of playoff disappointment...the other has played several playoff games total...

(05-26-2021, 09:37 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Porzingis 17/4/0.5 59.6% TS
George 25.5/9/5.5 58.6% TS

(05-26-2021, 09:38 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: The JRich Matrix looks like this:

Option                     Path to Improvement
JRich Opt-in/Stays:   MLE
JRich Opt-in/Trade:   Trade Return for JRich + MLE

JRich Opt-out:          Cap Room + RMLE (cap room may be limited with recent play of THJ)
JRich Opt-out/S&T:   Trade Return for JRich + RMLE

1. What can you get in trade for JRich?
2. Who is more valuable than JRich among the MLE candidates? 

(05-26-2021, 09:57 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Paul George has disappeared consistently when it matters most. EVERY place he's been to he's laid an egg in the biggest moments. 

Dude is a loser. If the Clips want to give us Pandemic P for scraps ok sure he'd be a fine 3rd option, but I wouldn't give anything for him.

Kawhi Leonard is another story...

(05-26-2021, 09:59 PM)ClutchDirk Wrote: Paul George -6 and -18 so far...

KP +13 and +10...

(05-26-2021, 10:05 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: If PG is a loser...what is KP? PG made the playoffs as the best player prior to his injury. ECF in his 3rd and 4th season. Broke his leg and missed an entire season, bounced back and returned to an allstar level (finished 3rd in MVP voting). I don´t like PG and he hade some really bad moments in the last few seasons but at least he was good enough to get his teams into the playoffs and out of the first round.

(05-26-2021, 10:24 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: KP's entire career can be summed up as blue balls because he always gets injured before anything can really happen.

So to answer your question to what is KP? I don't know yet. In his time for DAL there has been growing pains, but with him the Mavs have posted historically efficient offenses. In the playoffs with a largely injured roster last year the Mavs almost played spoiler with KP playing very well until he got injured. This year's playoffs, KP isn't producing in the counting stats department but his presence has been largely positive and the Mavs are once again playing well in the playoffs with him at 2nd fiddle.

PG has had the better career so far, no arguing that overall. But there's a reason why he's called Pandemic P. Or No OT tonight P. Dude has consistently laid eggs when it matters most. IND was happy to get rid of him. OKC had 2 unremarkable playoff runs. Now in LAC we see PG underperform last year and while he's playing much better this year it's not leading to wins. 

So I'd take KP over PG since we've seen KP average 30/10 and play great defense. The potential, as always with KP, is too tantalizing to pass up on. Meanwhile we know what PG is. A top 20 guy that may or may not lose you a game in the playoffs.

(05-26-2021, 10:32 PM)SkenfromLMF Wrote: I have looked at this team as asset building - keeping the band together and adding the full MLE level of player (Shout out to LM) seems to be the best improvement in assets. 

The 2 trade pieces to consider are a S&T of JJ Reddick and/or a Burke + WCS combo that could return another MLE salary slot.

(05-26-2021, 10:49 PM)dynamicalVoid Wrote: Im not an NBA salary historian by any means...but if the Mavs have Front Court issues...and posters on here claim WCS has high +/- or defensive numbers...do you not want to keep him at 4M?  Maybe I am considering the DP contract too much here.

I get that its about value and what you can get in return.   But WCS seems like an asset at 4M.   

I saw him make Leonard do a U-Turn in the lane...guards have a hard time driving on him when he is switched on them(it seems...I dont watch tape...just live game eye test).   There are a lot of tall, long quick footed guys these days...but a lot of them are like Bismack Biyombo.  Maybe Im wrong and need to study the league more.   

Is WCS's offense so bad...his bball IQ and awareness so bad that he isnt worth 4M?  Seems like his defense is worth something more than 4M.  Maybe I need to study more.

(05-26-2021, 10:49 PM)dynamicalVoid Wrote: Im not an NBA salary historian by any means...but if the Mavs have Front Court issues...and posters on here claim WCS has high +/- or defensive numbers...do you not want to keep him at 4M?  Maybe I am considering the DP contract too much here.

I get that its about value and what you can get in return.   But WCS seems like an asset at 4M.   

I saw him make Leonard do a U-Turn in the lane...guards have a hard time driving on him when he is switched on them(it seems...I dont watch tape...just live game eye test).   There are a lot of tall, long quick footed guys these days...but a lot of them are like Bismack Biyombo.  Maybe Im wrong and need to study the league more.   

Is WCS's offense so bad...his bball IQ and awareness so bad that he isnt worth 4M?  Seems like his defense is worth something more than 4M.  Maybe I need to study more.

(05-26-2021, 11:16 PM)Omega_Supreme Wrote: Who do I target: 
Keep Tim Hardaway Jr. 
Keep Josh Richardson 
Sign Goran Dragic (Secondary ball handler, Shooter, iso scorer) 
Sign Richaun Holmes (High Motor Big) 
Sign Rudy Gay (Wing Defender in the 6-7 to 6-9 range)  
or 
Otto Porer Jr (Wing Defender in the 6-7 to 6-9 range)

(05-26-2021, 11:05 PM)DrMav Wrote: Yeah I think he provides too much value at his contract size to just dump for a few million more in cap space unless it’s because the Mavs and him already have another deal set up.