(05-15-2021, 10:38 AM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Good question and it really depends on Richardsons and KPs future. I think 23m isn´t enough to enter the Collins conversation (not to mention that I don´t like the fit next to KP). You already mentioned the problem with another wing/guard. Players like Ball, Graham or Lowry would push THJ out of the starting five. I wouldn´t mind a split the money approach and target one wing/guard in the 12-15m (THT) and one big in the 5-10m range (Theis).
In a no KP scenario all bets are off. With THJ on a cheap deal the Mavs could potentiall add three guys in the 20+ million range. One of them obviously in a trade.

(05-15-2021, 11:21 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: KP/Collins

(05-15-2021, 11:26 AM)Kammrath Wrote: I assume the Mavs HAVE been targeting this. I love RH, but them chasing JC would not surprise me one bit.

(05-15-2021, 11:17 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: My only take away from the last few games is confirmation that it´s simply not working with KP.

In crunch time Luka is also looking for DFS as his trusted go-to-guy and who can blame him with the way Dorian is shooting the ball lately. He seems to have ice in his veins, too.

I thought Richardson looked much better too, when KP was out.

Obviously this team needs upgrades, when KP is traded, but it seems inevitable. I´d try to move heaven and earth for any three-way deal involving Lavine/Porzingis and then make an icing on the cake bit for Collins. If it doesn´t work out, I´m sure you can get Horford or Adams.

(05-15-2021, 11:21 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Honest question about Collins.  KP/Maxi obviously works.  Why can that work and KP/Collins can't?  Atlanta isn't bad at D when Collins is playing.  Some have said D-RPM matters and Collins is better at that than Maxi.  AND, if you have that much potential O on the floor between KP, Collins and Luka, can you get away with Green starting and adding another plus perimeter defender.

Plus, it isn't like KP/Collins will play together for the full 48.  There would be all sorts of mix and match opportunities between KP/Powell/WCS/Collins and even some DFS at PF with a roll man (which has worked well when KP sits).  Notice I didn't include Maxi (I have him going out in the Collins deal which would preserve the ability to keep THJ).

KP/Powell/WCS
Collins/(KP-DFS)
DFS/THJ
Green/(THJ-Brunson)
Luka/Brunson

(05-15-2021, 11:17 AM)Mavs2021 Wrote: My only take away from the last few games is confirmation that it´s simply not working with KP.

In crunch time Luka is also looking for DFS as his trusted go-to-guy and who can blame him with the way Dorian is shooting the ball lately. He seems to have ice in his veins, too.

I thought Richardson looked much better too, when KP was out.

Obviously this team needs upgrades, when KP is traded, but it seems inevitable. I´d try to move heaven and earth for any three-way deal involving Lavine/Porzingis and then make an icing on the cake bit for Collins. If it doesn´t work out, I´m sure you can get Horford or Adams.

(05-15-2021, 11:36 AM)chaparral Wrote: Adams and a S&T Ball would work for KP and a S&T JRich.

(05-14-2021, 05:39 PM)Jason Terry Wrote: TJ Warren and Taurean Prince are both players that I’ve thought would make a lot of sense for us. Both have 1 year left this summer at $13 million. So they should be available for cheap. Both also neatly fit salary wise in a swap for opted in J Rich should we choose to go that route. Both would be excellent backup 3’s who could play with the starting group if needed. 

Also of note since it’s unlikely we could get BOTH Brogdon and Turner from Indy, Brogdon and Warren or Turner and Warren both are decent packages for KP depending how Indy wants to go about retooling their roster. (Yes KP is a bad fit there but could go to a 3rd team)

(05-15-2021, 09:37 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: 4.  Graham and Brunson are both represented by CAA.  Agents don't typically place a client on a new team at the same position as another client...especially a year before their contract is up.  It is a good way to get fired by Brunson.  Graham would pinch Brunson's opportunities.  Seeing Brunson in the closing lineup would be a thing of the past.  I'm not saying it can't happen, but you'd have to have a good understanding with Jalen of what he can expect in a year and it would probably need to be sixth man of the year type money.

(05-14-2021, 10:55 PM)Branduil Wrote: I just want to figure out a way to trade KP for Brogdon and then add Holmes while keeping THJ as 6th man.

(05-15-2021, 11:26 AM)Kammrath Wrote: I assume the Mavs HAVE been targeting this. I love RH, but them chasing JC would not surprise me one bit.

(05-15-2021, 04:19 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: I didn't know they were at the same agency but Mavs have gotten multiple players from the same agent before (Duffy, Schwartz of course). 

(05-15-2021, 05:39 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: I don’t think you can dismiss the issue that easily.  Luka was the first Duffy guy here of any consequences for a decade.  Yeah, we traded for JRich, but trading is different than signing and it isn’t like JRich was any threat to Luka.  In fact, the theory was Luka might help create value for JRich.

I’m drawing a blank on any Schwartz situation where we had a Schwartz guy and signed another to potentially steal minutes from him.  Just having “gotten multiple players” from Schwartz isn’t the issue.  

Imagine you are Brunson.  In a year you will get your first big pay day.  The guy you trust to look out for your best interest instead brings in another of his clients to take minutes/role/opportunity away from you.  The agent is basically taking money out of your pocket.  There would be 100 agents on the phone calling Brunson five seconds after such a move was made.  The agent comes out way ahead placing Graham somewhere else and maximizing Brunson to the extent he can influence that and keeping both customers happy.

(05-15-2021, 05:39 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Imagine you are Brunson.  In a year you will get your first big pay day. 

(05-15-2021, 05:31 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: If done with Maxi as an outgoing salary, there is room to keep THJ. 

(05-15-2021, 05:31 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: It keeps KP at his preferred position, but also keeps two bigs on the floor