(05-10-2021, 11:52 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Anyone seen the numbers SG Khyri Thomas put up on the 10 day contract for Houston so far? 

(05-11-2021, 11:14 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: Well, when we started discussing Collins a few months back, Powell wasn't even in the rotation. I've been a Powell fan for a while, and I have to admit the thinking above is compelling, if you think the current version of Powell is what you can count on getting as we move forward.

(05-11-2021, 11:24 AM)StepBackJay Wrote: Who would Mavs pair with Collins, would it need to be another stretch 5? This part I am fuzzy on. Collins can shoot outside but he also rolls a lot so seems like you would want a Maxi or Thad Young type next to him. There aren't a lot of guys I can picture that are great fits next to Collins. Maybe Myles Turner, that's about it. If I could get Turner + Collins in a multi-team trade I would definitely be interested but that too seems like a longshot.

(05-11-2021, 11:10 AM)StepBackJay Wrote: Bleh ya I have a hard time with this. KP complains a lot lol. So Mavs tried 5 out for quite a while and it just wasn't working. The offense looks better with a rim roller. KP still gets his points either way so I don't think he should have a lot to complain about. Remember last year for most of the season KP was playing with Powell. I hope KP can just be patient.

To me ideally the way you would "fix" the KP problem is to get another ball mover in the lineup (starting or otherwise) that can get KP the ball. J rich is not that guy.

(05-10-2021, 10:14 PM)KillerLeft Wrote: PLUS: (typing this with a straight face) to me, Hardaway IS a third star level player. It's just that the team has no 2nd best player.

(05-11-2021, 11:35 AM)mvossman Wrote: Is it not working?  Our most used lineup by far is KP/Kleber/Luka/DFS/JRich, our 5 out starting lineup.  That lineup has a offensive rating of 123.7 and a net 12.6.  That is dominate.  I'm not sure why that is not working?  The biggest problem this year is that we have only had 22 games where all of those guys are healthy.  We don't have a big enough sample yet to really know what we have with that group, but the early returns seem pretty good so far.

(05-11-2021, 11:31 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: Maybe even DFS, for that matter. The center is what's missing here.

(05-11-2021, 11:31 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: Yeah, it gets really complicated if you let it. 

The bottom line for me is this: as the team is constructed today, the best option at the 5 is WCS, as he's the one and only defensive difference maker they have the option of playing there. To my thinking, THAT is the spot I would focus on upgrading, and THEN I'd figure out how to make the pieces fit together once I had that guy in place. That's why I'm not as high on Collins as I once was. He's just a better version of what they already have - a combo of some of the better skills offered by Powell and Kleber. That's nice, but doesn't address the REAL problem, imho. 

Without a top 10 defensive 5, you're not going to have a top 10 defense. People say the Mavs need a rim runner. That's fine. If that skill is attached to a defensive 5, then all of a sudden Kleber is juuuuuuuust fine as a starting 4. Maybe even DFS, for that matter. The center is what's missing here.

(05-11-2021, 11:11 AM)dynamicalVoid Wrote: Also...I forget that Collins' Max isnt like a veteran Max or Super Max...whats the most Collins can get from Atlanta?  From another team?  I guess I am thinking I would rather have Powell at 12M than Collins at 25M.

No offense to you Collins...I wish you all the best in the World.

(05-11-2021, 12:21 PM)cow Wrote: Tim Sr. must have some good dirt on the "THJ is a 3rd star level player" camp.

(05-11-2021, 12:38 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: I mean please. Let´s not go down the: Why "Dwight Powell is a better basketball player than Julius Randle"-road again.

Dwight Powell´s whole existence is dependent on the attention Luka draws. I expect that we´ll see a lot more of teams playing Luka 1-on-1 in the play-offs, staying home on the 3pt shooters and Powell.

There are 20-30 guys in the league that can do Powell´s job for less money. The fact that he´s such a difference-maker in our current set-up says more about Porzingis than Powell imho.

(05-11-2021, 11:35 AM)mvossman Wrote: Is it not working?  Our most used lineup by far is KP/Kleber/Luka/DFS/JRich, our 5 out starting lineup.  That lineup has a offensive rating of 123.7 and a net 12.6.  That is dominate.  I'm not sure why that is not working?  The biggest problem this year is that we have only had 22 games where all of those guys are healthy.  We don't have a big enough sample yet to really know what we have with that group, but the early returns seem pretty good so far.

(05-11-2021, 11:24 AM)StepBackJay Wrote: Who would Mavs pair with Collins, would it need to be another stretch 5? This part I am fuzzy on. Collins can shoot outside but he also rolls a lot so seems like you would want a Maxi or Thad Young type next to him. There aren't a lot of guys I can picture that are great fits next to Collins. Maybe Myles Turner, that's about it. If I could get Turner + Collins in a multi-team trade I would definitely be interested but that too seems like a longshot.

(05-11-2021, 11:31 AM)KillerLeft Wrote: Maybe even DFS, for that matter. The center is what's missing here.

(05-11-2021, 02:04 PM)Kammrath Wrote: I would be willing to run him and Luka as the 3/4 on D IF the Mavs get a competent defensive center in the fold who has switchability and some rim defense.

(05-11-2021, 12:54 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: It really depends on the definition. Who was the 3rd option on last years Lakers team? Kyle Kuzma scoring 12.8ppg /53.1% TS. THJ is cleary better.
In a 1a/b situation with two legit top 10 guys THJ could easily be the 3rd scoring option but that´s not the case in Dallas. Replace KP with Embiid/Davis or Jokic and THJ would be a great 3rd guy.

(05-12-2021, 08:59 AM)Mavs03 Wrote: THT with a nice game yesterday hitting some big shots in OT for the Lakers including two massive 3 pointers.  He's averaging 9 points, 3 rebounds 3 assists, 1 steal in 20 minutes per game for the season.  He's shooting 46% from the field and 79% from the FT line for the year.  He's only shooting  27% from 3, although that percentage has actually improved. Over the past month, he's shot 31% from 3.  His stroke is good.  I believe that percentage could get into the mid 30s with more playing time.

I would present an offer sheet that would make it uncomfortable for the Lakers.  They already have $120 million committed in team salary for next year and that's not even including Dennis Schroeder who is an unrestricted free agent.  If we get THT, he would replace J-Rich in the starting lineup.