(05-07-2021, 02:33 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: I want Brog real bad. I would try to get him maybe with a Brunson type trade.

I love Brunson but he's also due for a new contract soon. Brog would be perfect.

(05-07-2021, 04:33 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Honestly seeing how this team needs a rim roller AND someone to defend the rim I wonder if ATL is contemplating moving on from Capela.

(05-07-2021, 12:05 PM)omahen Wrote: I think time to think about Young and Conley was last season. They are playing way too good this season for their teams to let them go for (basically) nothing. Sure I would be all for JRich for Young, but I don't see it without picks attached. Are you still for it in that case? 

Chicago absolutely needs good defenders next to Vuc and LaVine and I will be extremely surprised if Markkanen is not the odd guy out from their frontcourt rotation. Theis and Young are perfect next to Vuc. The other thing Chicago desperately needs is a PG pass first floor general that plays defense. If I combine the dots and it is Markkanen going out for that PG in a SnT. I don't think LaVine will want to sign an extension.

Utah has a couple of years window with Gobert and Mitchel. How can they get better if they let Conley walk? I just don't see it.

(05-07-2021, 05:23 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: KP came up on the Hardwood Knocks Podcast.

Their take is Dallas is one to 1.5 players away from a championship.  They don't think Dallas will trade KP.  What Dallas wants to see is another star that can be 2A or 2B with KP or maybe makes KP the third best player on the team.  

They did start by saying there aren't obvious trade suitors and mentioned Charlotte (what Rozier-plus package would Dallas want?  Would Charlotte do that?  They went to something similar to what was discussed here).  By the end of the conversation they said the market for KP would be "vast" and he wouldn't be "hard to trade".  But, they concluded it could happen, but more likely a year from now and only after a disappointing season.  Preference is KP Plus another really good player and they want to give that a shot.

Brunson was interviewed on Lowe Post Podcast episode that dropped today.  About to listen now.  Will report if anything interesting next time I'm signed on.

(05-07-2021, 05:12 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: I'm working under the assumption that Chicago's trade for Vucevic was agent orchestrated.  I think Chicago will do what it takes to create the room and extend LaVine.  You point to one of the issues with this line of thinking...they have to let Markkanen walk for nothing.  Someone will make a nice offer for Markkanen.  Maybe San Antonio.  Heck, I LOVED your post about a Holmes/Markkanen front court in Dallas IF KP is gone (just not sure that is going to happen).  I'm not sure someone will give up an asset for Markkanen knowing Chicago can't hold him and execute the LaVine extension.

Is there a way to max LaVine and get something for Markkanen?  Theoretically yes.  The incoming PG has to be cheap and they have to drop or trade Satoransky (dropping him creates $5mm, giving him to a cap-room team for no returning salary creates $10mm).  Or, you have to pay someone to take Aminu into space for no returning salary.  What $5-$10mm PG will Markkanen get you that is a significant upgrade from Satoransky?

As you know, Utah doesn't have a vote as to whether to "let" Conley do anything.  They aren't traditionally a tax payer and they are at $133mm without him.  He is a mile better than Lowry at this point and should be the Mav's target if they decide to go all-in on one guy.  The year he is having is just nuts.

(05-07-2021, 03:55 PM)mvossman Wrote: Brog seems like a perfect fit.  I'm skeptical the Pacers would be interested in a Brunson for Brogdon trade.  If they really are looking to blow it up, I don't see them wanting KP either.  What might make sense is a three way trade between Pacers, Warriors and Mavs with the key pieces being:

Indiana gets Wiggins and pick
GS gets KP
Mavs get Brogdon

Indiana would have to add something to make the numbers work.  Maybe a sign and trade of McDermott to Mavs or maybe they throw in Turner and we throw in Burke.  

If we decide to trade KP, this is probably our best case reasonable scenario.

(05-07-2021, 05:36 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: You seriously lost me with the Chicago talk.

Lavine has played on shitshow teams his whole career. The Bulls are sitting in 11th place in the lowly East with the 23rd best record in the league.

Why in the world would Lavine sign a max extension this summer?

(05-07-2021, 05:23 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Brunson was interviewed on Lowe Post Podcast episode that dropped today.  About to listen now.  Will report if anything interesting next time I'm signed on.

(05-07-2021, 06:22 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: So, this kind of thinking (which I term “what I would do if I were a pro athlete and already had millions”) happens a lot on message boards.  But, it isn’t how players (and especially agents) think.  If you have to ask why (in the world) someone would lock in $189 million and not risk being the next DeMarcus Cousins, you are thinking WAY too much like a fan and not at all like a player.  There is no greater priority for LaVine and Duffy this summer.

(05-07-2021, 06:22 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: So, this kind of thinking (which I term “what I would do if I were a pro athlete and already had millions”) happens a lot on message boards.  But, it isn’t how players (and especially agents) think.  If you have to ask why (in the world) someone would lock in $189 million and not risk being the next DeMarcus Cousins, you are thinking WAY too much like a fan and not at all like a player.  There is no greater priority for LaVine and Duffy this summer.

(05-07-2021, 06:40 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: Stars don't have to lock in money any more they just force a trade. LaVine being an expiring contract on a crappy team can play that card any time he wants. He's 26 entering his prime so I doubt he wants to waste it on a Bulls team that's going nowhere. Anyways I'd be surprised if he did an extension. If I am him I'd want to keep my options open.

(05-07-2021, 06:22 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: So, this kind of thinking (which I term “what I would do if I were a pro athlete and already had millions”) happens a lot on message boards.  But, it isn’t how players (and especially agents) think.  If you have to ask why (in the world) someone would lock in $189 million and not risk being the next DeMarcus Cousins, you are thinking WAY too much like a fan and not at all like a player.  There is no greater priority for LaVine and Duffy this summer.

(05-07-2021, 05:36 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: Why in the world would Lavine sign a max extension this summer?

(05-07-2021, 08:51 PM)SleepingHero Wrote: Money talks.

I think the most the Mavs can offer him is 4 years 150mm max in 2022. Meanwhile the Bulls can potentially offer him a 5 year 205mm supermax extension if he makes all NBA (a longshot but a shot). 

Even without the 5 year max extension I think the Bulls cans till give him an extra year worth around 45 mill so a 5 year 190mm contract. 

The numbers might be off but the sentiment holds true.

(05-07-2021, 09:04 PM)Mavs2021 Wrote: So I still don´t get it. Dan said the Bulls would trade us expiring awesome Thad Young for shitty extended Jason Richardson, because Zach Lavine wants max money now and apparently is very keen to make his team of the next five years worse in the process, because Duffy told him to.

(05-07-2021, 11:39 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: 1. In a trade for T. Young it gives them the $14.3mm in cap room they need to max LaVine in 21 and add the extension off the max.