(04-11-2021, 08:28 AM)Chicagojk Wrote: Although I think the appeal of Demar is not to be a three point marksman.  It is another guy who can create, get to the line and take some scoring punch (especially if KP is out).   I am in favor of changing our offensive approach some.  Not to get another guy who waits to shoot an open three, but a another guy who creates pressure on the defense.   So for all times you would have two of Luka, Brunson and Derozan on the floor and fill around them with defense and shooting.   

Am I ready to say Demar is my number one choice.....Not yet.    But am I intrigued with adding more juice to our team....yes.

(04-11-2021, 05:46 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: What they said was that he might be an interesting Plan B after they miss on whatever their main plan is.

(04-11-2021, 05:46 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: I had a little driving time today and listened something called the NBA Front Office podcast with Keith Smith and Trevor Lane.  I don’t know much about them except Lane also does some Laker related stuff and Smith is some kind of cap and analytics guy.

Anyway, DeRozan was the last name they discussed on their most recent podcast and the team they brought up was Dallas.  What they said was that he might be an interesting Plan B after they miss on whatever their main plan is.  They envision a two year deal starting at $25mm per year.  They thought it critical that the team that signs him stick to just a two year deal.  They said DeRozan has really made over his game.  He’s playing a good bit of PF and is much more of a facilitator averaging 7 assists per game.  They thought Dallas had enough 3 point shooting to make DeRozan fit as a secondary playmaker and 20 point scorer.  They didn’t think it to be an intuitive move, but once we saw it in action we’d all say “hmmmm that kind of makes sense”.

(04-11-2021, 05:46 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Anyway, DeRozan was the last name they discussed on their most recent podcast and the team they brought up was Dallas.  What they said was that he might be an interesting Plan B after they miss on whatever their main plan is.  They envision a two year deal starting at $25mm per year.  They thought it critical that the team that signs him stick to just a two year deal.  They said DeRozan has really made over his game.  He’s playing a good bit of PF and is much more of a facilitator averaging 7 assists per game.  They thought Dallas had enough 3 point shooting to make DeRozan fit as a secondary playmaker and 20 point scorer.  They didn’t think it to be an intuitive move, but once we saw it in action we’d all say “hmmmm that kind of makes sense”.

(04-11-2021, 05:46 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: I had a little driving time today and listened something called the NBA Front Office podcast with Keith Smith and Trevor Lane.  I don’t know much about them except Lane also does some Laker related stuff and Smith is some kind of cap and analytics guy.

Anyway, DeRozan was the last name they discussed on their most recent podcast and the team they brought up was Dallas.  What they said was that he might be an interesting Plan B after they miss on whatever their main plan is.  They envision a two year deal starting at $25mm per year.  They thought it critical that the team that signs him stick to just a two year deal.  They said DeRozan has really made over his game.  He’s playing a good bit of PF and is much more of a facilitator averaging 7 assists per game.  They thought Dallas had enough 3 point shooting to make DeRozan fit as a secondary playmaker and 20 point scorer.  They didn’t think it to be an intuitive move, but once we saw it in action we’d all say “hmmmm that kind of makes sense”.

(04-11-2021, 06:22 PM)Chicagojk Wrote: I got to be honest, 25 million seems a little rich to me.  I was thinking a max at around 18 million and was hoping for less than that.  

I want to note again, i have not watched much of the spurs.  So most of my Derozan experience is when we play the Spurs.   I have noticed his high assist number lately.   While he is not a great shooter, I think what interests me is when the mavs get in a dry spell and they keep on shooting three after three, a guy like Derozan can either get to the line or get a good percentage two point shot.   I just gives us another way to attack defenses rather than hoping we shoot a better percentage of threes than our competition or hope for a Luka Legend game to get a victory.   I would be lying if I could give much of an opinion on his defense though.

(04-11-2021, 09:33 PM)StepBackJay Wrote: THJ 2 points, DR 33 and the game winner. I rest my case. Donnie make it happen please.

(04-11-2021, 09:44 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: have $11mm and be at the front of the line for MLE level guys.  You would need to replace Hardaway’s shooting with that slot.

(04-11-2021, 09:49 PM)omahen Wrote: What shooting?  I think I would keep JRich defense (if he agrees, of course). Otherwise McDermott could be a realistic target for that money.

(04-11-2021, 10:26 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Or, does Josh Green pick up some of those wing defender minutes next season?  

The issue with DD is he's neither a shooter nor a defender.  So, what do you prioritize next to him?  You need both.  Also, are we slotting DeRozan at SF?  Who sits, Maxi or Finney?  If Maxi sits, you need a shooter.  If Finney sits you need a defender.  And, it isn't just any defender.  They need to be able to take the other team's primary creator.

(04-11-2021, 11:17 PM)Jason Terry Wrote: Seems like it would be J Rich opts in and DD gets the 22.7 million left and becomes 6th man and backs up 2-3-4 depending on matchups. We would lose Hardaway and the full MLE. 3pt shooting would be a problem. Maybe a decent shooter would take the room exception?

(04-11-2021, 11:17 PM)Jason Terry Wrote: Seems like it would be J Rich opts in and DD gets the 22.7 million left and becomes 6th man and backs up 2-3-4 depending on matchups. We would lose Hardaway and the full MLE. 3pt shooting would be a problem. Maybe a decent shooter would take the room exception?

(04-11-2021, 11:27 PM)dirkfansince1998 Wrote: Mavs also need to think about the front court rotation. WCS and Powell are 3rd string bigs.  

(04-12-2021, 06:18 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: I don't know.  I'd probably start my $23mm guy and let my $4mm guy back up the 3/4.  I agree with you and Omahen that it makes the starting two even more important.  Post All-Star JRich is hitting .378 on his 3's.  Maybe that is good enough if it continues.  Or, maybe Danny Green gives you both better shooting and better defense.

(04-12-2021, 06:24 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Post All-Star Powell is +5.3 with a .686 TS% and O/D-Ratings of 150/108.

(04-12-2021, 06:24 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Come on now.  

Post All-Star Powell is +5.3 with a .686 TS% and O/D-Ratings of 150/108.  Convert his 14 minute/game to Per 36 and he's 12.8 points and 9 boards.  We all expected him to improve the further away from his injury that he got and he's doing exactly that.

(04-12-2021, 07:06 AM)omahen Wrote: Powell had a couple of excellent games. But I just don't see him live up to his 10 mil contract. I think Mavs have to start optimizing cap structure to become contender and there is no place for overpaid players. Despite recent nice games I have a hard time seeing Powell as a serious contributor in extensive minutes. As long as he is just KP back up, 10 mil per year is too much.

(04-12-2021, 07:25 AM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: And my response would be “so...”

They aren’t going to S/W him and his salary makes him untradeable for at least another year.  But, that doesn’t make him a “3rd string center”.  Also, if KP is playing big minutes, there isn’t a “serious contributor in extensive minutes” role to be had.  

Bottom line, we can complain about Powell’s salary, but it isn’t going to change anything.  Or, we can realize he’s become quite productive in the limited role he has and move on.  Unless someone has a magic wand I don’t know about, I don’t see the benefit of using the words “trade Powell” together in a sentence as the least bit helpful to off-season strategy discussions.  Very little of that was directed at you BTW.

(04-11-2021, 10:26 PM)DanSchwartzgan Wrote: Or, does Josh Green pick up some of those wing defender minutes next season?  

The issue with DD is he's neither a shooter nor a defender.  So, what do you prioritize next to him?  You need both.  Also, are we slotting DeRozan at SF?  Who sits, Maxi or Finney?  If Maxi sits, you need a shooter.  If Finney sits you need a defender.  And, it isn't just any defender.  They need to be able to take the other team's primary creator.